No, you’re not getting me. I’m not talking about YOUR tone. I want the content of conversation to be substantive. I’m tired of the content of conversation being about other people’s tone.
No, you’re not getting me. I’m not talking about YOUR tone. I want the content of conversation to be substantive. I’m tired of the content of conversation being about other people’s tone.
I don’t know what the policing is in regards to, and I just don’t care. People should make decisions about who they want as president because they think this individual is the most qualified for the job. I don’t have the energy to listen to people talk about tone anymore, and I get to hear about it in almost all…
Bernie fan here: I just want people to stop talking about tone [ALL SIDES: supporters other candidates, anti-Bernie people, and Bernie people who feel hurt or defensive about how they’re viewed].
Bernie supporter here: I would actually like to hear policy disagreements and would love to talk comparisons of different candidates’ policies, and I respect people when they earnestly look into the positions and say, “Hey, I’m a Biden supporter because XYZ.” I try not to get into a tizzy or force people into agreeing…
That’s not what the commenter who you replied to said. Sanders’ supporters are not against criticisms, they are tired of the criticisms directed at the wrong things.
I think many of the people you are looking for are former Warren supporters! Search the “WarrentoBernie” hashtag on twitter.
Re-entering Paris, Supreme court and federal judges, a woman vp, a public option, voter rights, preserving democracy, protection for dreamers, free college, Warren’s bankruptcy plan... that’s all nothing? I get that you want more, but in what possible way is that nothing? This election is crucial.
1) I applaud you for “focusing your efforts” elsewhere. I presume this means volunteering or campaigning for politicians pushing progressive policies at state and local levels. My biggest skepticism about the kind of ardent Bernie supporter I really dislike is that they talk as if he’s the only one who can enact the…
This is probably where we differ. I don’t believe that Biden is the same as Trump, and their respective records indicate as such. Biden isn’t going to put frothing conservative zealots on court benches, enact a criminally inhumane immigration policy, or cut taxes for the rich at the full expense of working people.…
I’ll probably end up in the grays again.
I suppose the question here is: if you can’t get 75% of what you want, will you settle for 30%, 10% or sit at home and see things keep going the other way altogether? Do you try to push things leftwards regardless of how far that push goes, or quit pushing when you don’t get as far as you want? Which think tank would…
Progressive idealist here: i think you make an excellent point about the certainty with which many of us progressives (Sanders supporters included) sometimes conduct ourselves. I agree, it can (& often is) off-putting to less-politically-educated people; it’s a real problem in trying to bring people around to a…
too true - I think a lot about how social media almost seems to have walked communication skills backward? I know talking about the social bubble is nothing new, but, yeah.
I am not saying that Bernie voters are unreliable; I am saying that the demographics Bernie Sanders has spent his campaign appealing to (and banking on showing up to vote for him) are historically unreliable voters, and Bernie Sanders himself has acknowledged that the voters he was counting on to show up and vote for…
me too!!! :-)))
There have been Sanders supporters who don’t play nicely with others on the internet, who don’t realize that sneering at others who generally agree on many of the same lefty issues is not productive, who revel in the clout that comes with embarrassing some verified Twitter user over a lukewarm Sanders take. And I…
This is also true. Some of the shit about Bernie Bros is overblown, but watching the way Warren got shit on in the stretch run of this campaign by Bernie supporters, culminating with Bernie supporters absolutely astonished that she was hesitant to endorse him was really something. Like, you really have to take a step…
Thanks for writing this Ashley - I am a brown woman for Bernie, and I feel seen.
This honestly isn’t true, because the demographics Sanders has staked his campaign on are unreliable voters. They couldn’t even carry him to the Democratic nomination, much less carry him to victory in a general election. Frankly, as much as it pains Bernie’s fans to hear, Biden has more of a chance of appealing to…
Bernie’s supporters always seem to approach his candidacy as if it’s an inherent reality that young people are better, or more worthy, or more valuable. Votes, in the end, are valuable, and all people are valuable, as everyone’s effort to shelter and protect the elderly happens now. WHY does Biden need to win over…