I’m forever surprised that we think Grease is wholesome family fun. That is mostly driven by the PG rating which would definitely be PG-13 if that rating had existed. I should not have been singing along to Look at Me, I’m Sandra Dee at 7.

The reason Grease should be cancelled is its part of the Boomer ‘our period of adolescence was the greatest period of history” movement in the 70s and 80s that led to so much shitty movies about the 50s, hot rods and diners.

I was a bit confused as I thought you meant UK comedian Alan Carr, who may or may not like Grease for all I know.

Coming from someone who Piers Morgan would call a “woke bloody idiot” as well as someone who fucking hates Grease, this is such a non-controversy. Yeah, Grease has creepy shit, shock of shocks, so do 95% of romantic comedies. (and shut your ass, Piers, the fact that you still have a show is far more offensive than…

All of that and as a lyric it’s there to pair off of “was it love at first sight?” The whole concept of the song is that neither side is getting an impartial story, but both are talking through their own coded gender norms, the girls overly mushy, the boys overly raunchy, but they’re both asking the same things.

That’s why I love The Great Mouse Detective so much; Vincent Price got so into the role of Rattigan and the animators matched him so well, I keep forgetting it’s an animated rat and not Price himself on screen.

Also it’s the rest of the gang asking, not Danny saying. And as other commenters have pointed out, the rest of the T-Birds are jackasses. A bunch of jackasses ASKING a character who is deep down a nice guy (ie the romantic lead) if he forced his girlfriend does not condone rape, it highlights that Danny is a nice guy…

Billy West has a great interview expressing his frustration at this. “They gave Cameron Diaz $10 million for Shrek. Why?? Does she have a nine foot mouth? What makes her so special?”

Now, this is not a defence, I promise. Of course Grease hasn’t aged well and that’s because nothing does. We had to watch Grease all the time at school because it was the only VHS tape the school had so every relief teacher, every rainy day, every school camp, they put Grease on.  So I hated it and I thought it had…

Yes it does! The Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man, for example, taught me I should join the Navy. It’s called patriotism.

Something being a movie does not equal the movie “teaching it”. That’s absurd logic. 

The film’s big themes—about rejecting dominant narratives, embracing who you are, the shallowness of beauty—are the same big themes from the first Shrek.

For what it’s worth. People in the 50s believed that taking aspirin with soda before sex would prevent pregnancy. https://www.verywellhealth.com/myth-busters-aspirin-as-a-birth-control-method-906684

*world’s biggest eye roll followed by a party at Allan Carr’s house*

I loved Lord Farquaad, mainly because John Lithgow elevates everything he’s in. Plus, how many animated films include a scene that cuts out right before the villain starts jerking off? (Seriously--when he’s in bed looking at Fiona in the Magic Mirror, he looks under the sheets at his crotch, then looks to either side…

I’m with you on that, there’s been the odd high point but Mermaid, Beast and Aladdin (which sadly he didn’t survive to finish) are all Disney at their very best and full of charm, something which is all too often missing.

One of the legit tragedies of American animated filmmaking is that the animation house war of the late ‘90s did produce some legitimately good, even great movies but for various reasons, audiences didn’t embrace them the way they did princesses and pop-culture extravaganzas. The Iron Giant is probably the most infamous…

“Also, the animation looks a lot better than it did in the first Shrek—less PlayStation cutscene, more PlayStation 2 cutscene.”

Yeah, Katzenberg’s beef wasn’t with Disney—as Tom points out, before he went postal insulting Disney’s values, he was the guy who revitalized them. He took down the person who did him wrong, and everyone over the age of 11 knew Lord Farquaad was Eisner.

Katzenberg tried, but his “fuck you” wasn’t enough. Disney still won.