1st gear - I call BS. There have been cases of Tesla shorts finding salvaged cars on the internet and making fake NHTSA reports on “behalf of the owners”. Of course they never even talked to the owners or know why the crash happened. But regardless they made dozens if not hundreds of fake NHTSA complaints. (at the…

Well the EQC is a big hint it wasn’t US, as it isn’t out in US yet. The other being this statement “The Tesla Model 3 went far enough to go “from greater London to Newcastle on Tyne” which if you don’t know UK geography, is far.”

They will probably make a smart/mini car for the chinese market.

For all the tech the jetsons have, the cars still have a driver’s wheel it seems.

Again, I’m not sure what that has to do with fuel economy standards for cars.

Well actually it is closer to 90%. The reason was they did not start the test at 100% but at around 96%.

The most notable trick for going around EPA test is to use a similar models test and use that as your result. For EVs, the EPA gave a simple way to lessen the test, you can do a simple 2 cycle test but have to present 70% of it. (Doing so your EV would have less range than what the test says but it saves time and…

Consider the MPGe has improved, probably improvements in efficiency. Of course its possible for it to have been both.

Sorry, what in the world are you talking about? What does uranium have to do with fuel economy?

Cause no one wanted to sit in those terrible seats for that long!

I think you are confused. They aren’t lying, they are simply giving the numbers that it scored on the test.

That is a Tesla Model 3 AWD, and it was before the software update unlocking more range. So 270 / 310 is 87%.

The range quoted that you see is EPA range or WLTP range. Generally you have a profile which will predict range based on your driving (depending on the car).

Heater usage is not a killer, a heater would use up 1-2.5kw per hour depending on temperature. So that is like 3-8 miles of range per hour.

What he is saying is its far from “optimal” as claimed. 40 degrees is cold, it isn’t freezing cold but cold.

That said 40 degrees is far from normal during summer in Minnesota:

The range claims are based on standardized tests. Manufacturers have no choice but to quote what the test get. Or they can face penalties. (though they can downrank their results but why would they want to?)

The thing about that is I don’t want a system where if you can’t get enough seats, you can’t form government. Israel went through what? 3 elections last year?

The topic we are talking about is the fuel economy standards. And I’m no fun of the 2 party system either, but it’s virtually impossible to undo it. Even George Washington who was against political parties couldn’t stop it.

I didn’t know we live in N Korea where we aren’t allowed to criticize our president when he is totally wrong. Funny that instead of agreeing or defending his policy you play the whining card.

I don’t remember him ever going after anyone who downgraded his stock price (if that is all they did).