Again - having owned (title in hand, registration and insurance in my name), driven, and wrenched on both - I'd much rather have a Crown Vic. In a year of ownership on the LS, the transmission blew up, the power steering unit started leaking onto the alternator - which fried it and caused all sorts of electrical…

Yes, that's what I was referring to - there were a couple of those on Crownvic.net few years ago. My apologies if calling a "step-by-step" is an overreach - but the folks over there were excellent to work with, very knowledgeable and helpful. The Lexus forums on the other hand...

I certainly would rather have the Crown Vic - but that's because I've spent time under the hood of both. The Lexus is a nicer ride around town (debatable on the highway) with more curb appeal - but it's a giant pain in the butt to work on when something does go wrong.

Holy Jesus those wheels are ugly.

Buy it now is $5200, I bet he gets about $4000-$4500 for it. Doesn't qualify.

If that was a five speed, you've have this won by a landslide.

Yes - the Panther platform is way easier to work on and the user community (forums) are vastly more accommodating. For example, I can put a manual transmission in the Crown Vic / Grand Marquis with junkyard parts for under $1000 - and there is a step-by-step DIY already posted. Try that with the Lexus.

"How many cars can add 200hp at the crank with just [$10K worth of] bolt-ons?"

If they made a manual Odyssey, I’d be all over it.

What german row-your-own longroof is going to be anywhere near as powerful as this for less scratch? As mentioned by the other Saab owners on here, this thing is a tune and some bolt-ons away from 350+ WHP.

250HP, stick shift, station wagon for under $7K? This is the easiest NP of all time - although I suppose if it was brown and RWD it would fetch a higher win %.

C7 Corvette. It looked evolutionary in the magazines, but the first one I saw in person (in Dubai) looked exotic even when surrounded by far more expensive machinery.

I’ll add that I like the steering wheel.

THIS. My wife’s 2011 Murano LE is nice enough on the highway and does kid-hauling duties well - but that CVT is just painful.

Keep up with a 3.7 (Base model V6) with four doors, fail wheel drive and CVT? Not from a dig.

Sincerely, Ford Mustang V6 in 2011.

Valid points - I concede.

I Googled it a bit and as far as I can tell, no state will give you tax back on it. They all default to a "minimum zero" on the sales tax.

Depending on other factors (mileage, color) - they are getting more than that on eBay. I live in a state (South Carolina) that caps sales tax on vehicles at $300 (5% of the first 6000, then it caps) - so if you buy a 10 year old Civic or a brand new Bentley - you pay the same $300. As such, I can not imagine how…

What color?