My folks had one: manual (with the brilliant Hill Hold feature, v. useful in hilly Seattle), and the red AWD on demand button in the middle of the shift knob. Gray cloth interior, two-knob radio. Acceleration was like being pulled by a slingshot through molasses. Defined “no frills,” but reliable.

Shaun Livingston will always be #1 for me, in particular bc I was a Clipper fan in those days, and he was such a talented young player (transcendent court vision and passing), and a person’s FUCKING LEG just should not do that.

I have to assume Otani got cross-wise with the Yakuza. Sad.

Until Atlanta took the top spot, the Sounders have historically been the top draw in MLS by a wide margin (~60% more fans than the next best team). You expect Seattle’s NHL team to do better than that?

That’s not much of a bar. :/

“Bad ownership” is why most teams move, no? But teams with solid markets can survive the worst owners, especially in hockey it seems.

True. That’s an issue now, but even when the T-Birds we’re playing at Seattle Center they were not a hot ticket.

Eh. It’s not a “take” it’s my impression based on several facts (most of which you don’t seem to dispute), and the only proof will be in 10-15 years after Seattle gets this still-hypothetical team and the “shiny new team” effect wears off.

Didnt say they won it, however the haul Philly got included Nik Stauskas who maybe looked like a potentially useful guy at the time but actually sucks really really hard.

Remember when everyone thought the Sixers picked Sacto’s pocket in that deal?

1) Once the Lakers passed on Okafor (why, I still wonder?) the Sixers had to draft him. With that said, they had a choice: trade him on draft day (when his value was probably at its peak), or keep him and hope he was good enough to crack the rotation, even with Embiid & Noel. Clearly, choosing the latter was a mistake.

“Grew up there too and some of my best memories are T-Birds games in the Key.” This was me too (add some games at the old “Seattle Arena”), but the fact is, as much fun as the games are, Seattle has never consistently turned out for them.

Amen. The Sounders were going to be successful because there’s a huge culture of soccer (most of my male friends played it growing up, even through high school), and the area has almost always supported pro soccer very strongly whether it was the NASL Sounders, Tacoma Stars in MISL, etc. the Seattle/Tacoma teams are…

Yeah, the Mariners always get an attendance bump when the Jay’s are in town. That would help.

Yes, the Sonics are my favorite team in any sport and I would definitely prefer a shiny new expansion team to a relocation.

As someone who grew up there, I’m not sold on this team being a surefire success. Their minor hockey team has attendance below what you’d expect, and there just isn’t as much of a “hockey culture” as there is for soccer. The argumentsfor the NHL’s chances seem to acknowledge this, and assert it will be overcome by a…

Will always remind me of:

Whoa, this pizza video sounds awesome!

You mean like this guy? :)

It looks ready to drop anchor