Their dishwashing detergent is fucking useless too, and their website makes it near impossible to stop deliveries. I finally stopped just pushing it back when I got a new debit card and didn’t bother updating the one on their site. They can Honestly go fuck themselves.

People who should be sued for malpractice.

There were a lot of ways she fell through the cracks because of her mom’s abuse and outside coincidence - sometimes a doctor wouldn’t provide the diagnosis the mom was looking for, so they would just change doctors. Or the fact that they were victims of Hurricane Katrina, so the mom just claimed the medical records…

No one is arguing that Elizabeth Smart shouldn’t have the right to share her experience.

So make porn that reflects your values. Trashing porn is easy. Coming up with ways to grow our understanding of sexuality isn't.

See I think that men have been abusing women and that shitty, non-mutually enjoyable sex has been around a lot longer than porn. I think the problem is our society's view on sex, which I think porn is a reflection of, not a cause of. And I think that if we taught sex Ed and positive attitudes about sex the way other…

Well, you say that but isn’t that the point in the discussion where you need real facts behind the claim rather than individual stories? I mean, shitty attitudes towards women and sex sure as hell didn’t begin with pornography and I’d hazard a guess that our attitudes today, with porn as prominent and readily…

“...I know someone who has a really hard time getting an erection because of too much pornography growing up. I would be much more apt to talk about that kind of experience.”

I see the reflection of reality in porn. And I don’t think erasing it is going to do anything to change reality. I think reality needs to change. Porn will follow suit.

Smart can have an opinion of her own, and she obviously does, but due to her unique experiences there’s almost no way she can be expected to look at the issue of porn in society objectively. It’s not fair to expect that of someone who was introduced to porn in the way that she was, and tempering that expectation…

Yeah, I think ANYTHING can be a trigger for an addict. And we can’t take away booze because abusers get drunk before they abuse. We do have some work done on identifying triggers and helping people who want help but as far as I know, we’ve got a lot to learn about sexual deviancy. It's not a well understood subject.

I mean I get that for most people it is normal and healthy and fine. I’m talking about abusers where it is clear that the porn is part of their cycle/pattern of abuse. I don’t know if I’m being clear or if I can without laying out and describing some pretty disturbing shit. Like, I guess I just mean that a lot of…

I find it worse that others are clearly promoting this poor woman as an example of why porn is bad, which feels exploitative... To use someone who’s obviously and understandably got a very black-and-white view of this, and who’s lived through the onslaught of a prime example of an abusive monster, to promote willful…

No. People have been raping and abducting women long before porn existed. If you want to argue that porn increases those crimes, go for it, but there are stats on it and they disagree with that.

“The above video was posted on Friday by the anti-porn group Fight the New Drug.”

it goes way beyond that. she was raised, and is still, LDS. mormons are very, very anti porn

I didn’t say she wasn’t allowed to talk about her own experience but this is being used to affect society and convince people that pornography is bad. I’m pushing back on the ethics of using a spokesperson with such a loaded backstory. This is like, the #1 thing in my Facebook newsfeed, in my iPhone newsfeed, etc. And…

yeah exactly, watch porn before bed=healthy. Quit your job because you need to watch porn all day= not healthy. Context.

Criticize it sure, but you’re attempting to blame it as far as I can tell.

The confluence of mental illness and religious zealotry had more to do with her situation than pornography. It would make as much sense for her to oppose the possession of knives as it does to oppose pornography.