I thought of this episode as a C+ or B- episode. For some reason I really like the idea of Felicity with Palmer more that Oliver and Felicity. It just seems to make more sense.

I used to love Dexter, but that last season dropped its total grade down so far for me. It should have ended with debra shooting dexter at the end of season 7. Did season 8 even have a villain?!

I've seen some claiming both eddie and harrison wells are from the future. I like the idea of harrison trying to stop eddie. After what they've shown of him it'd be a nice twist

That would be an interesting way to deal with it. I feel like it has to be someone we at least know. The way they're handling it seems like they want it resolved sooner rather than later.

Hopefully leaving them in an apartment on fire. Flash takes a very dark turn once Caitlin makes essentially 1000 proof alcohol.

I keep thinking of the Archer scene in Skytanic where they keep implying it's the German guy with an eyepatch and Archer states "It's not the German that's way too obvious". That is why I don't want it to be Wells. That said I want some reason why it's Eddie. It makes no sense otherwise. Also I want to know who else…

She seems to do all the bio related stuff and Cisco does all the mechanical stuff. It only slightly bothers me that she is an expert on every part of life science and Cisco is an expert on everything on math and physics.

As for the cops, that was ordered by eddie, so it's not exactly surprising as he doesn't seem to know what the deal was with that guy. They just thought that he was a regular guy possibly armed. They didn't know he beat the flash either.

I think there's an upcoming episode titled firestorm though. Also a lot of these villains are apparently from the Firestorm comic.

If it's heatwave, then Classic Misdirection!

Jesse Martin's and Tom Cavanaugh's acting are the best thing in this show.

Well he has shown a lack of any problem with killing people.

Why is Eddie evil though? There's been nothing to indicate he's bad besides the comics

Everything about that jail is super illegal

I assume they're going to use the shows to expand the DC universe, so it's probably worth it to be aware of what's going on in both. I definitely prefer Arrow though.

I didn't even think about that. I think Wells pushes some of these ideas, because it requires barry to gain more control over his abilities.

How many metahumans has he revealed himself to? Just Plastique right?

It was more how arrogant he was to reveal himself that bothered me.

I was wondering how Iris was able to do a knockout punch. I liked that she saved him at the end.

I disagree, I loved ruthless oliver on the first season. Although I'm a bit happy that they toned him back, otherwise they'd have an issue on how to handle a bad guy and I don't think CW would handle a plot of oliver's downfall well. It might become as bad or worse than Dexter's final season.