Lol. You’re so obtuse.

Yea I’m not sure I like these giant conglomerate companies either. I try and support small game devs and local businesses in my life.

As to the unfair situation here. I think it’s unfair that colleges/schools string people along with degrees that lead to these unfair supply/demand structures. I was happy with the Obama…

Now you’re putting words in my mouth.
I didn’t say they had to suck it up.
They can quit, form a union, find new applicable skills, form a new company, hone their craft etc....

It’s not that I don’t sympathize with people in industries on the wrong side of the supply/demand spectrum. I realize that they are in a bad…

Hmm. I tried to explain to Ding many times that free interactions include not doing the work if you don’t like the interaction.

I found it silly that Ding was doing virtually the same thing by freely leaving the interaction he did not like.

Since you are freely leaving this interaction I will let you. I won’t demand you answer me nor should you expect me to.

No, no one is entitled to make money on something just because they can do it.
I can ride my bicycle in a perpetual wheelie.
People like to see this and demand to see me do it.
That doesn’t mean they have to pay me for it. Only if there was an agreement beforehand to pay me.
If I want to get paid and they don’t want to…

Doesn’t matter. If you don’t like the interaction, then don’t do it. That’s the point. If the supply dries up then Ubisoft will have to adjust it’s practices.

The real problem is this. Areas such as graphic design are heavily skewed on the supply/demand scale. With a glut of supply the demand side can get away with…

You’re missing the forest for the trees. The point is that the interaction is clearly defined. Expecting a different outcome is silly.

*Rolls eyes

Replace product with service then. It still applies.

I guess since we’ve thrown civility out the window now I’ll be a little more forceful.

Barring a preexisting contract, no one is entitled to have their product sold. Ever. Full stop.

There’s always going to be someone undercutting you. Whining about it achieves nothing. Improving your craft or gaining a new skill does.

Yo…

It’s hardly unique to this career. Free work for exposure happens often when there is a giant disparity of supply compared to demand. No one is entitled to have their product sold just because they can supply it.

No. You’re not far off and engaging much better than most on this site.

In fact, after I typed out my last point I was going to go back and soften it. Alas I didn’t get to it before the edit option expired. So here it is again with changes you might agree with.

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TL:DR

If you’re putting in the work and people are voluntarily willing to pay you money for it, it’s a real job.

It’s not a lack of respect for the people doing anything. You’re not obligated to buy anything from anyone just because you need it they can supply it.

I don’t like people getting hit with bricks. I will not hit people with bricks. But if someone else wants to stand in front of a cannon shooting bricks, then they’re stupid.

If no one has an interest in something I guess it would be free because no one would protest taking it. But then again if no one wants it why would anyone take it?

(This is fun.)

Hmm since we’ve left the Logic Express I’ll play along.

Well I guess if you don’t like any of Perkin’s beverages you could consider that a free trophy.

You’re correct in that too. Free markets and people demanding basic needs don’t mix either. You have to do/trade something to get that too.

Does Perkins tell you they are going to give you anything but a free beverage in that equation? If you don’t like the odds then don’t play the game.

Free markets and people demanding equality of outcome don’t mix very well.