nope, I stand by it. Any regular Joe/JoAnne defending a billionaire and his defective bullshit should fuck off. 

They’re not jumping to a conclusion, they’re responding to the article. This isn’t a court of law, no one here is convicting anyone, the driver said that they had FSD engaged and there’s a robust history of that malfunctioning. There’s a chance that the driver is lying for some reason, but it’s not unreasonable to…

The two possibilities are that either FSD is dangerous or it’s a convenient excuse for a remarkably shitty driver because its reputation is so bad already, I’m not sure what you think the point of litigating this is. Obviously the guy could be lying, but the information at this point indicates that FSD was active and…

So you’re saying FSD was engaged?

It being Reddit, it’s hard to say for sure. But if you go to r/teslalounge you’ll absolutely hear stories of people experiencing phantom lane changes, phantom braking, and phantom braking with lane changes. Particularly at lane splits. And frankly, endless evidence that FSD is extremely dangerous and probably…

Has Tesla confirmed that FSD was not engaged in this car at the time of the accident?  Seems like it would be in their best interest to do so.

I must have better vision than you because I watch people’s head movements all the time when I drive.   Just this morning, I was trying to pull out of a parking lot and I saw a car coming with his blinker on.  Which meant he was either pulling into the parking lot or taking a right turn 50 feet away.  He was slowing…

Hahaha love the grays.

What video were you watching?! The Tesla swerves and then proceeds to brake to a DEAD STOP. Also known as ZERO MILES PER HOUR. 

Great so if a driver falls asleep or is distracted, FSD will go ahead and crash the car itself.  Good to know.

The fact that Tesla hasn't released vehicle logs in an attempt to discredit the driver like they've done in the past gives more credibility to the driver, IMO. 

In front of a FSD Tesla.  You know, get some skin in the game.

False flag! Go eat a bag of dicks....

I don’t think you know what evidence means. The only evidence we have that the FSD was on or off was the driver saying it was. If and when the data logs from the car and or Tesla become available we will have more conclusive evidence. You are showing a lot of bias by assuming the driver is lying, he could be lying or…

Or other half baked self driving computers making stupid mistakes. 

Yeah, it’s definitely way more likely the driver slammed on brakes and changed lanes for no reason, than a computer beta that is well known to constantly do stuff like that. Put down the kool aid. 

The car immediately behind the Tesla stopped short of hitting him.

Is it really too much to ask of people to just drive a car? This isn’t the fucking Jetsons, it’s real life. I hate this shit. It was way better when all these MFs were just driving themselves into walls.

You should probably contact Tesla about that. Address your email to the address below:

Except those comments were not arguing whether FSD was engaged or not.  They were operating under the assumption that it WAS on, and STILL blaming the accident on other drivers.