It is really crazy to think that the base model mustang has 310hp/350ftlb on tap, and a 0-60 under 5 seconds. Think about how ridiculous 0-60 times are getting. A “fast” car was anything in or under the 6 second range from the late 60s until the mid 2000s. All of the sudden we have beige appliance-mobiles hitting 60…

price it under $40k

The internet is an unforgiving place :sigh:

Haha no worries. We both agree that something like a car is not an appropriate gift. Large purchases need to be well thought out and financially planned.

No? Have you ever heard of a sting operation? Or any sort of investigation where the police may not want to be spotted? How about policing areas that people actually speed dangerously through, such as residental neighborhoods?

Almost. The first part is true. The second part is......ummmm...not. Do you honestly believe that all cops are bad/racist? Why? because of anecdotal stories of bad/racist cops? Because I can think of anecdotes of many groups of people that, by that logic, would mean ALL of the people in those groups are bad. That is…

Okay, and I am aware that police falsly accuse people and even harass people from time to time. My point was to counter the idea that “all cops are bad.” This idea seems to be so ingrained into younger generations that people cannot fathom the police doing good things, even though it is blatantly obvious, with over 1…

I don’t have the answer for that. I do know that there are over 1 million police officers, and I certainly haven’t heard anywhere near 1 million stories of bad cops. Certainly there are unreported bad stories, but is it really so much to think that there are many cops out there doing good work and acting…

HAHA oooops! “to-be”*****

This is an anecdote, but recently some local cop was harassing my (black) brother-in-law-to-be at the local “home days” carnival thing because he accidentally pulled into a closed off street to turn around. He was apparently screaming and being a dick, and 2 other officers came over, grabbed him, pulled him back, and…

While I agree with the idea, unmarked cars are pretty important for many facets of law enforcement. I have no problem with unmarked cars in most cases, although hiding one in an intentional speed trap is shitty, and so is what this dick cop in the article did.

The Toyota Camry is capable of a 5.7 dash to 60 and the Honda Accord is capable of 5.6. If those are not average commuter cars, I don’t really know what is.

What do you consider “unsafe to operate on public roads”? 1" lower? A brake swap? New wheels? These are things that are not considered when the car is designed, meaning that yes, theoretically they could be considered “unsafe”. If the government determines you can no longer do these things, then the mods become…

This is a car for my wife, but for me. She wants a smaller car, and finds this one to be very good looking. I happen to agree (other than the front end), in fact, I think the rest of the car is fantastic looking, especially in that silver color. I also think the F sport wheels are some of the best looking OEM wheels…

As much as I would hate these people to be in my town, an ordinance like that could seriously prevent “normal” enthusiasts from modifying their cars in tasteful manners. I, for one, am not usually a fan of “slippery slope” type laws.

I would hardly say that it is irrelevant. The reason Americans are “fascinated” with straight line performance is because the vast majority of our roads are straight. While I, myself, prefer a nice twisty road in a car with a good chassis, I at least understand and respect straight line performance, since those twisty…

I agree with the idea, but you underestimate the abilities of asshats, sociopaths, and general morons

Historically, a 6 second 0-60 was pretty quick for anything that wasn’t considered high performance. Now adays, a 6 second 0-60 is common in the beigemobiles of the world. In fact, the low spec 3 series has always seemed to be right on par with the mass market beigemobiles. I’m not saying that there aren’t fast BMWs,…

The death of the Legacy GT was the first suggestion of Subaru’s eventual neglect of the enthusiast market. They are trying to become Toyota.

LOL I hate when people say/assume that BMWs are preformance cars. They aren’t. Look at the base model of each series; They are always fairly gutless, which is fine for Bob in accounting who leases a new 3 series every year too look the part, but for someone who is interested in driving, a 320i or whatever the current…