It's not so bad once you get past the rampant racism, insane hardcore right wingers, even more insane church folks, and swarms of brotrucks. Oh wait.

Only problem is you've got to live in Texas!

Did they also report shooting down a jet at that time?
Does putin pay you per month or per post?

Wow, this is a big mystery. After you solve this you can figure out if water is wet, if the sky really is blue and what exactly is up with airline food.

You're giving morons a bad name.

Yes, sending old farts that hold some speeches is different from doing a cover up operation to shot down an airliner at the right place and right time without being seen while making sure the separatists act exactly like if they actually did it.

Tell me about your chemtrails hypothesis. I'm all ears.

Amazing the level of idiocy of some of the posters on here - claiming Ukraine, German and even Americans are responsible for this. I guess when not working on RT (Russia Today) the Russian trolls of Vlady Putin troll MH17 postings to try and "clear Russia's good name."

It looks like they have already started using them as a bargaining chip. Saw some news on that earlier today. (Can look for it if you want.)

I'd say you're missing a whole lot.

Taking bodies away from the crash site is destroying evidence.

Why even mention that the rebels claim that the Ukrainian government shot it down? It's like reporting on a crazy man pointing at the sky and screaming about chemtrails. Of course they're going to say some crazy shit, just like they say that Kiev is controlled by fascist homosexual jews. No reason to repeat it.

Go read those articles again and work on your reading comp. the international observers were in fact on the ground, the bodies were stolen by the rebels, loaded into 'clapped out' train cars, and sent away to who knows where.

While I can't say for sure what's what, I'm inclined to believe Russia has a hand or two or three in all of this. All of these separatist rebellions in former soviet states that just happen to be good for Russia all happening at the same time... yeah that's probably just a big coincidence...

Well, gentlemen, I'm from Ukraine, and I've seen some "pro-russian rebels" in person. If you think that they are just poor people who do not agree with Kiev's politics you're totally wrong. That bastards consists of two kinds: bandits who get paid by Russia to destabilize our country and Russian soldiers undercover.…

Fuck those assholes. Putin is a fucking douchebag and these are his puppets.

Hindering those investigators in doing their job....how much more confession of blame can there be?

I used to tell my Russian friends that while I vehemently disagree with pro-Russian militants, I understood their concerns & they weren't necessarily bad guys. I have since hardily revised my opinion.

It is crazy to anyone with any type of experience in both combat and war zones. The amount of things that need to go right in order to frame another power for something is incredibly high and usually not worth the risk. This is especially so since the separatists already have shot down multiple Ukraine aircraft and…