like quickly rusting out frames, frames so bad some of them are replaced under warrantee/recall?

AND ANOTHER THING... HOW IS THE TUNDRA ON ANYBODY’S SHOPPING LIST?!

How do we know? Because the safety mechanisms were clearly bypassed. If this was a true medical emergency or he “just fell asleep”, the car would have pulled over since there would not be any hands on the wheel. Try to justify this all you want, you can’t because it was a deliberate action.  This is EXACTLY why we…

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He would have had to have done something to the car to defeat the steering-wheel torque sensors. This doesn’t happen by accident, by design.

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Sure there is.  If he hadn’t defeated the safety features the car is supposed to fucking stop.

I’ve accumulated Ford stock because of how good the F-150 is and because of the Explorer redesign. If Lincoln can get its act together and sell Aviators in meaningful numbers, that would be icing on the cake.

Man this is slightly out of my price range. I was looking to buy sooner than later and price was going to determine whether my wife would be getting a Nautilus or a Aviator. This thing looks so damn good though I think we are gonna delay buying a year or two till we can afford the Aviator.

Not an SUV, but on a trip from Connecticut to North Carolina and back last fall, our 2017 Pacifica averaged 30 MPG.

Exactly, so many commentors and writers keep pushing the same BS narrative. We won’t see $100 oil again without something really crazy happening in the geo-political arena. Sedans have been replaced with CUVs that make negligibly worse MPG than their contemporary counterparts. Even truck and SUV gas mileage is way up.…

The unimaginable amount of cash that GM has poured into Cadillac since the 1980's at the expense of its other, more profitable divisions, only to continually fail to rehabilitate Cadillac’s image, fully position Cadillac as a desirable brand with fully competitive products... it just boggles the mind.

“Too many people don’t seem to understand this.”

SUV’s from 15 years ago got 13mpg.

And because they were in the wrong vehicle, they sold their SUVs at a huge loss and rolled thousands of negative equity into their new sedan, in order to save $75/month on gas...

They are, but today’s SUVs, and especially crossovers, are far more fuel efficient than those of the mid-2000's.

Keep fighting this fight, man. Once you’re above 30 mpg (which a host of CUVs achieve), it’s diminishing returns.

But that penalty is only due to the decision to forego sedan design. If CUV/SUV fuel economy has improved that much, why hasn’t sedan fuel economy improved proportionally, outside of hybrids?

If they freak out they aren’t very smart or are living very close to the edge of budget constraints. Even if gas goes up a dollar a gallon right now I would only pay an extra $900 a year for fuel with a full size pickup.

While that is true the penalty is much less severe today than it was 15 years ago. A difference of 2-4 mpg isn’t that big of a deal for most folks.