Gahh thank you for saying this! This thread is so frustrating. It is totally possible for someone to be both a victim of abuse and a predator. That’s the story for a lot of serial killers.

No one here is favouring Paul Bernardo by holding her responsible for her actions. Jezus.

While I get and respect what you’re saying, victims of DV - even the most extreme cases - can still be really shitty people in their own right.

Ok, Karla. We get it—you are using his abuse as a get-out-of-all-responsibility-for-your-actions card.

Fuck you. She participated in raping and murdering her own sister fairly early in their relationship. They weren’t married, he hadn’t brainwashed her. She did it willingly and gave her sister to him as a “gift.” She went down on her own unconscious, drugged sister and watched him rape her. She laughed and…

Holding her responsible isn’t excusing him. That’s ridiculous, Karla.
Your entire theory depends on the belief that woman can ONLY be victims and not also perpetrators and it is complete bullshit.

Exactly. She is in NO WAY being ‘prevented from living a normal life’. You don’t need to volunteer at a school to lead a normal life. The fuck is wrong with everyone?

Canada is where they let the man off who fisted a woman to death. Canada is where they lightly punished two men who beat a prostitute to death because they were drunk. Canada is where the cab driver who raped the unconscious woman who had urinated on herself was let off.

This just might be the beginning of the slippery slope that we always hear about but always question.

I don’t think it’s just a race thing. A weird culture is emerging on the left where NO ONE can be offended, ever. Discussion is simply not allowed. It reminds me of what happened to the right a while ago with the Tea Party, where suddenly no one was “conservative enough” and it scares me. Because we all saw how that…

Who gets to make the call? Who gets to be the art police? Is it just the volume of the anonymous digital rabble that determines the fate of the piece? How many thumbs down clicks? Or is it the identity of the person who fires the first shot? “As a ______ this piece is problematic” and poof, the artists intent is…

Its a very slippery slope when art can be criticized not for its intent, but for what feelings and opinions it elicits from its audience. And this doesn’t just apply to static sculpture, this applies to all forms of art; music, film, etc.

If “I’m offended” is now the standard to have art removed from public, God help…

Co-opting? Marginalizing? Hate crime?

And there’s a comment from a person who doesn’t usually respond to responses, so I’ll copy and paste and dissect it in this thread.

journalism is dependent on hoping that rich people are good and not bad.

One death is a tragedy, one million deaths is a statistic. So the Trumps are happily preventing one tragedy and promoting “statistics.”

Single Prayer Healthcare.

If he was POTUS during WWII we would be in a real live Man in the Highcastle situation. Trump would have rolled over for Hitler so fast that I can’t even make a snarky remark about it.

They’re going after it so hard because it would “prove” that Russia didn’t hack the DNC. They also think that by proving Russia didn’t hack the DNC, they can prove that Trump’s campaign didn’t collude with Russia.

Can you imagine if Trump was President during WWII?