Totally forgot about that, but you’re exactly right.

Haha, no, but way to show your #NotAllMen pride. Rape is so sensitive a topic because even in our enlightened times actual rape victims are still treated like garbage. Look at the recent Stuebenville rape case to see it in action. If anything, society is due for a little over-sensitivity in the other direction.

That…

No, it absolutely took place in the books (and it was worse). Yet, rather than Sansa, it’s Jeyne Poole pretending to be Arya Stark. I also (don’t) like how you imply that she can’t continue to show strength and grow after being raped.

All the showrunners did was make it Sansa and not the background character that’s filling her role in the books.

But he did make Ramsay (and Reek) rape Jeyne Poole (pretending to be Arya Stark) in what is basically the same scene. Yet because it was a nobody character, nobody cared.

Holy fucking Christ I hope you’re trolling.

Yes it absolutely was. The only difference is that it was Jeyne Poole pretending to be Arya, not Sansa. And in the books, the scene was way, way worse.

If that’s what you think this episode said, I recommend taking a correspondence lit course or something.

Because we have no idea what the progression of the story/character is going to be beyond this. They might fuck it up, but they might not. There’s no good answer because the story isn’t done yet.

Yes it is. Only rather than Sansa, it’s Jeyne Poole who’s pretending to be Aria. And it’s worse in the book.

Because this was the first time it happened to a truly innocent character, I think.

Uh, no. They made her even more multi-faceted and cemented her as a truly moral, compassionate, and STRONG figure.

Unless your name is super-ironic, Law and Order has an entire series devoted to rape stories. Making it “procedural” is fucking cheap, what happened to Melfi was masterfully executed. From the writing to Lorraine Bracco’s incredible performance.

While I think you’re right that rape was chosen as the violence to befall…

Yet you use a metaphor implying fatal violence to express your personal disgust for the use of sexual violence in fiction. Thank the monomyth that you don’t get to set the rules for what storytellers can do....

Well said.

In fairness, I think audiences have every right to criticize the execution of a violent scene. In the case of rape, it can be used carelessly and often is. Ironically, it seems people only complain about the compelling ones, but perhaps because those scenes (like good fiction is supposed to) forced them into feelings…

It’s far from a trope. I didn’t watch SOA, so I can’t speak on that, but Melfi’s scene was very impactful. It was about how someone like Melfi dealt with violence. That whole episode we wanted, were practically begging, to have her unleash Tony on that piece of shit. When she didn’t, I think it made a very powerful…

That is a really limited way to look at it. Just because he’s on screen? When he was castrated the scene didn’t become about the wall or whatever they cut to when they didn’t show that. It was through Theon’s reaction that we the audience experienced it. We have no idea what the scene was “about” because we’ve not…

He was a bad guy, she is the personification of innocence and all other virtues on the show. That’s what I think is driving the difference in responses to Ramsay’s vile acts.

Um, everything in Game of Thrones and a Song of Ice and Fire is “created.”

Well it’s not supposed to be pleasant! It’s supposed to be horrific, and thus has its place in the storytellers’ toolbox. Again, you can criticize the execution all you want, but to try to deny writers the chance to attempt it is just silly.