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@ TRAVIS HUDSON

I think everyone here is forgetting something. GM can say just pay the fines if they can't reach the target, then spread out the fines to the heavy gas guzzlers. It's just some of the cars will cost more because of the fines. Besides diesel, direct injection, hybrid tech should be enough to get over 35 mpg for cars.

Yep, exactly what I though when I saw the Pilot.

It looks like honda's version of the ford explorer america except with an chevy uplander rear end to make it look more minivanish.

Sorry, the civic is heavily in the been there done that territory and it's too easy even given CA smog. I would have to go with the Vic. It'll be a little more interesting.