Yes, and talk about two people who belong on the small screen. Hawkeye doesn't need to be in the films!

Not him. I have a massive crush. It's the only reason I watch the show. Seriously.

Maybe they made or powered Ultron with Asgardian tech or the alien stuff?

In that case, what if Fury used Ultron to bring Coulson back? Asgard is advanced tech, they are not magical, this has been reinforced since Thor 1. Ultron, on the other hand, is simulated life, whose origin is in man (ungodly).

Even, if, Asgard is just advanced tech. It's not magical anymore. I mean, there is no evidence of magic at all in the portrayal of Asgard and all of that. It's all tech elves up in there.

Oh, I don't think he sold the organization, just himself (didn't work on me). I do think Cap 2 will address it, but obvs not well since we know from whence Ultron will come and his integration via all the Coulsons and STARK electronics of the world (the Avengers movies are Iron Man movies, just like X-Men movies are…

Exactly. They were given free reign to turn S.H.I.E.L.D. into a bunch of @ssholes, Fury, in particular.

It seems pretty clear to me what we're supposed to think about it, "It's fun to be a spy, until they do all that stuff TO you." It could be a really interesting commentary on our times, but, as with the Avengers film, it wants to have it both ways. Everyone is a rogue and a whistleblower now, except when you are…

All robot references = Coulson foreshadowing.

They are setting up Coulson to turn on S.H.I.E.L.D. He's either a LMD or the Vision. Then he will have to decide whether to side with Ultron or not. Coulson subconsciously knew this, which is why he brought Skye in, because he knew she wouldn't trust the organization and would poke around.

Hard not to be cynical and view it as hubris as well as an ambitious marketing ploy. That said the whole thing to be saved by making Colson a rogue robot

Amell really did step it up and also appears to be a pretty nice guy and is loving the ride . Its hard to not want to see someone who is so dedicated and gracious succeed.

Too true. The sad part is Canary is an equally rich character and feels like a sideline

Being John Malkovitch but where everyone is a sarcastic teenage girl. This guys whole career .

Oliver has issues with women. He will shack up with anyone. If I recall he had this issue in the comics as well.Felicity is the exception. I feel like a part of her role is to be that contrast. She thinks more of him than he does himself. The other women play into or enable his self loathing. Felicity rocks and Ollie…

He really grew on me this season. I think Laurel had a cool moment when she blamed herself for Tommy dying. And now she's turning inward but that doesn't make great tv and I feel like the writers really botched the character.

Or just positioning the show as PR for the films and little else.

Felt that was a MODOK reference for sure!

I think Coulson brought in Skye because he no longer trusts SHIELD. He is no longer a true believer and knows something unnatural was done to him. He brought in someone from the outside because on some level he doesn't trust the organization anymore, and wants to use her. I don't think they have a parent/child…

Whenever Tahiti is mentioned, does Coulson always say "It's a magical place" like he is programmed?
Anyway, this show is so boring given that the likely majority of the audience wants to see the MarvelU mined, even in small doses. For some reason, it also bugs me when SHIELD gets involved in alien tech and digging…