there is plenty of evidence out there in the form of people that have had to work on them, people that have had one more than a couple years. Im not doing your research for you.

come on, mechanically a kia is junk, so it my have better fit and finish inside than it used to, but that's only because its become super cheap to do it.

Not when the Kia's really are crap. very cheaply made, poorly put together cars that aren't meant to last long.

I don't buy American either, I buy German. that's who makes good cars. Americans are starting to catch up, and better than Kia for sure, but no where near the Germans.

because it's kia, need I say more?

well, the English and the Russians have about the same track record for building cars :-)

I still won't buy Japanese, and you can't convince me a cheaply make KIA is worth driving for more than a year. That said, I agree, fun sports coupe war commence please!

well, not really, maybe i'm just sad Porsche didn't do it! lord knows I would never buy kia.

anyone else think KIA just came out with a modern Porsche 944? same basic specs, and the design looks like they just modernized a 944.

COTD for sure!!

you'd think they'd be quicker to shutdown their facebook, until then, have fun Jalops!

me either

lots of people buying them doesn't make them less ugly, plenty of people buy ugly cars every day :-) It should really be restyled, they would get an even higher take rate.

You're right, it would have to be well priced entry coupe to fit in the lineup. I still have a 968, as well as a 997. I would totally run out and buy a new 968 if they priced it right.

NO, the panamera is truly ULGY, I mean FUGLY even. Like it was beaten with an UGLY stick on it's way out of the factory. A 2 door panamera will never happen, but I think a 968 re-invented is more likely, less of a competitor for the 911, the reason they killed the 928 in the first place, it was too fast.

I think it's kind of a lazy design, it looks like a stretched 911, but you are right, that's what they intended. My point is that is terrible, it was for the boxster, and I hope they do the same elsewhere. Unfortunately, I think you are right, with VW in charge, they'll want all of them to look like 911s, and…

it looks too much like a 911, Porsches don't have to look like 911s, only 911s should look like 911s. I think it's a big mistake, they have started down the path of giving the boxster it's own identity, and I feel they should continue with all other models, that's my opinion.

agree to disagree I guess, I know it's a Porsche underneath, but it's trying to hard to be like a 911, style-wise, that it doesn't deserve the badge in my opinion. I really feel like they could make a much better looking car that has it's own identity. I felt the same way about the 986, thank god they fixed that mess.

i'd agree with you on everything but one point, it shouldn't bear the Porsche Logo until they redesign it. They should design it to be it's own car, not a try to make it look like a 911. The boxster has it's own look now, and that's so much better than before, they should follow the same line of thinking on the…

Wow, if that's an insult to you, you live a sheltered life my friend. I still don't thin you understand, and I don't think you ever will, because I can't say the same thing enough for it to sink in for you. My problem with the design is making it look like a stretched 911, plain and simple, how could I be any…