ssaxman
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ssaxman

can you explain how it simultaneously feels more roll over prone while feeling heavier and more planted? you cant have both, choose one

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this is what ive heard as well. the Miata is smaller lighter and more nimble while being equally slow and not muscular. the s2k is same size and nimbleness but faster with a really revvy engine. the toyobaru is worst of both worlds

this:

a new Miata is better than an frs in almost every way and is cheaper. a fiesta st is cheaper as well and carves like nobodies business

ok but do you think its normal for a “performance sports car” to be slower than any number of suv’s minivans and family sedans? is that normal to you?

these didn’t sell well when new:

i agree I need to drive it but plenty of journalists have driven it and came away saying it was weak and needed a turbo. I tend to trust them more than myself because they are pros

nope

it drives better than a stock mk6 golf. it had the same engine as a mk6 gti so its not very far off.

this car should be a trademark case in how not to design a car. I will never understand why Toyota is allergic to boosting this car. its sad and laughable at the same time. Subaru turbos engines for years then designs a sports car without one. multiple people should be fired by now

he hasn’t driven one. he also thinks a car with all seats filled has more body roll than an empty one. hes a moron

so you googled the weight and made a huge assumption about how it drives. go drive one and stop making blind assumptions

eos drive exactly like golfs and jettas so plenty enthusiastic in my opinion

Your underplaying that they are real live complete cars which this diablo will never be

no one would buy this. as much as people really didn’t buy the flex ecoboost this would sit on showrooms forever

im surprised jalopnik wouldn’t spec theirs with the manual

I guess we enjoy different fast....I enjoy driving fast around corners autocross and racetracks. you enjoy mashing the throttle on the highway when a Camaro pulls up....I know which one is more fun

care to show me a review of one that calls it boring? its one of the most fun cars you can buy and arguably more fun to drive than a land yacht like this