Am I the only one who thinks a 1m would be a better buy than this? It has a much stronger chance of appreciating hell it's barely even depreciated at all and we know how low the production numbers are wheras they could make a shit load of m2

Bmw wanted you to make sure you knew what was hanging on your tail

do you even CarMax bro?

wouldn't this be identical to the cts-v experience?

you couldn't be more wrong

the turbo 4 is a better comparison to the 2002 turbo. bmw didn't start putting I6 in small cars till the e21 for Europe and e30 for usa

jk windshield is flat. idk what this dude is smoking the new G is completely different than the old. they couldn't get away with selling a luxury car as shitty as an early G. the wrangler is way more tru to form

literally the only thing people talk about is the stupid manual steering.....the nsx had that 25 years ago and people thought it was the most modern car available.....

WTF

the people who buy economy turbos have little money and want something new with a warranty . these people are not going to hang on to their cars past warranty expiration so this argument is bs

You do realize they actually were kind of the same company for awhile right? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond-S…

these cars do absolutely nothing for me

because what you said is ridiculous. open your eyes dude the picture either shows an e61 longroof or a F10 hatchback jacked up GT like you can tell based on the picture and if you cant then read the title it will either say GT or it wont. If it says GT its not what you want and they all say GT so theres no plausible…

ok on cars.com there are 392 gran turismo 5 series. 1 yes 1 is sorted as a wagon and its from an idiotic individual seller. 391 of them are listed as hatchback. Also every GT is called gran turismo in the title. every single one. so in short im calling complete bs on your story

no shit Sherlock its tuned for performance not mpg. Also anytime you compare two engines of the same displacement one being turbo one not the NA will usually be better mpg. my 2.0 Ecoboost gets worse mileage than the 2.0 NA in focuses. My only point above was that turbos let you use a smaller displacement engine to…

ok well then its your fault for:

dude what are you talking about? look at the fiesta. the NA 4 banger gets worse mpg worse 0-60 worse torque than its 3cyl ecoboost engine model. Turbos let you use smaller displacement engines and thus get better mileage. turbos are awesome

are you European?

but torque.....

plenty of people love fwd and its quirky unpredictable driving dynamics also it just feels perverse feeding 270 ft lbs of torque to my front wheels. im on the opposite spectrum and I hate how every normal car has awd these days. stupid people think they need it to drive in the rain