“Two weeks out” for Level 5 is going to become the new “Within 5 years” they use for flying cars.

Wait, so Tesla is actively charging $10,000 for full self driving capability that not only doesn’t exist, but can’t possibly have any way of knowing any kind of a delivery date for one of the most complex problems humanity is currently trying to solve?

All Elon had to do was go outside and notice the complete lack of sentient robots walking around. The Jetsons is still just a cartoon.

Computers are real fast, but unfortunately, they also do exactly what they’re told to do, which makes them also real dumb.

I’m really pretty baffled why he “didn’t expect it to be so hard,”

Musk doesn’t sell any products, he sells hype. There’s a pretty big market for hype, but it’s got a shelf life. Better start delivering on some of these promises or eventually people will stop believing.

I agree there is a big software issue but the current claim is that Tesla can do level 5 type driving with its current hardware. Which I just don’t believe. They have yet to prove they can even do beyond level 2 autonomy with their current sensor suite and have had a huge time advantage to develop there system over Hon…

I’ve said it here before and I’ll say it again till I’m blue in the face. I don’t think any Tesla produced up to this point has the hardware it will take to achieve true Level 5 autonomy.

The most advanced “autonomous” vehicle on sale right now, is the only for Japan Honda Legend and that thing has five lidar and radars sensors with two camera sensors to get to level 3 autonomy.

He sure did! Then he praised the Model Y to Elon’s face even though they’re basically the same car.

Let’s not forget that he openly owns stock in Tesla and basically got on all fours and licked Elon’s boots in that cringy youtube video. I have zero faith in him to have an unbiased look at another electric car now. Which is a shame because he’s clearly very knowledgeable. 

pretty much making it a quintasential VW.

I think the feeling from a lot of the “ho-hum” reviews is that, up to now, most newer EVs have been offering something “Exciting” and “Different.” They’ve had unique features or eyeball-flattening acceleration or drive-it-yourself tech or SOMETHING that sets them apart from the typical gas car.

I don’t get all the ID.4 ho-hum reviews. I test drove one and really impressed at what you get for the money. Great features, everything felt well-made, and it was comfortable to drive. It has a tremendously comfortable rear seat for a 6'1" adult (I could easily sit behind myself with at least 4" of knee room).

ALL plastic clips are suspect, regardless of location, after 8 years. Interior clips, electrical connector clips, clips that hold wiring harnesses in place, clips holding plastic trunk panels - all of them. They’re there for fast production, they’re one-time use.

Man, I rail against this “threaded fasteners=bad” mentality. The plastic clip that doesn’t snap after 8 years of driving is rare in my experience. “People aren’t going to service this” feels like a very, very OEM perspective. Totally believe his reasoning on not liking threaded fasteners, but they sure feel worth it…

These bastards are incredibly durable, I would have NEVER guessed it, until one day a buddy and I were sitting around a campfire in my backyard having a beer a couple days before my wedding.

@toasteroven: How so? Please enlighten me as to why my post about a car which a reader loves and maintains himself is jumping the shark, I'm curious.

@Fodder650: Will a car that is glued together ever pass our safety standards?

i think that as a true car-guy and jalop, one MUST own a beater car. Blogs and buff-books breathlessly talk about the "experience" and "real driving" when behind the wheel of something like a 911 GTRS but in my opinion, owning a beater like a Metro is REAL driving.