Your understanding of radar and radar systems needs an update. We have shown that and both us and the Russians have developed tech to provide guidance updates to missiles in the low bands. You fail to recognize how not just us but others can fuse data from multiple band and multiple waveforms to indenting threat. Once…

Agreed it’s not like the f1117 a secret program actually development built and deployed quickly. It’s not like everyone knows everything about it and that’s it’s taken so long they have not had years to plan and change procurement needs and deploy better systems but actual decades.

Amen

The f18 have been around that long because the development of their replacement is years behind schedule and we have incurred cost to extend their lives through the depots and have need to purchase newer legacy planes to fill the plane gap.

If that’s the case why did we cancel the F22?

Enough of all you skynet fans. There will always be things that Man can do that sensors and drones can't. No matter how many million line of code we write.

Real high threshold there. One thing with an unmanned light airframes low speed drone another thing with a manned fully armed FA that cost 188 million per not to mention the cost of the pilot and ordnance or for the matter the failed mission.

What? You know we are taking about the F35. It's haddes under it. The engine is Impressive but it's not cool by an object measure. Maybe if you provide cryogenic tanks. There and engineering effort going on to upgrade decks to handle the heat.

Sweet

They are counting on it because there is no alternative available or in the pipeline. Why do you think we waited till after the f22 line was shut down to all of a sudden. Suspend the f35 program and rebate line it. Because it was sunspot to be available in 2012 so not having additional f22 wouldn’t have hurt the fleet…

This is not just cost plus causing this it’s much deeper and at the root of it is judgement by all,those involved from industry to DOD to congress to the executive. I’m tired of the cost plus agreement it’s the lack of discipline and thoughtful intellectually rigor from day one.

It’s not just the cost which is out of this world we could have a base on Mars for the cost of this program. It’s what it has meant to out existing air fleet. Without a new plane and taking so long has led to our existing air frames service life getting eaten up driving cost to extend and to purchase legacy fighters…

I agree one the POS procurement get in the hands of those that will fly it they will make the most of it. That said it was a great cost of both lost opportunity and treasure that we will be feeling for years if not decades.

Spot on. So much for the 2012 IOC date.

The first annual Hooning Games NZ

Just like their birds...they don't fly

So who annexes who? Or do we just let Dunkin Donuts and Tim Horton’s fight for annex rights

That explains why the AUS Navy was there....Micheal should have led with that....

Australia has a navy. Who would have thunk it. Most be a lot of Fosters cans tied together to make it float.

Less time than that it’s not like going thru American regulations where just the permitting process takes you three years. First, these nation are starving for the opportunity and investment. The governments would flatten their out cities to allow even half the building to happen that happens in China. With the Middle…