Counterpoint: I want a truck but don’t have space to park the land barge that is an F-150.

Bring a can of kerosene and a tank of liquid oxygen with you. See if the owner will let you crank if over, just for shits and giggles. 

Just a quick primer on the Saturn series, since I’m sure it will come up:

Dude... buffer seat. Someone just sit in the back. 

Fuel Economy of a 1.5 Diesel? If this sled doesn’t ring the EPA bell at 40 city/50 highway, then what’s the point?

With a tune, it might be a fun car, but a tune won’t make it a really nice car.

Eexactly why i now think the supra makes around 60hp less then the bmw. To follow Toyota's philosophy of overbuilding and underpowering the vehicle for less stress on components. 

I own a Honda, a Porsche, a Toyota and a VW. Toyota is still pretty reliable. But they do it with pretty under stressed components, in my opinion. they get less from their motors on purpose, and they last longer, with fewer issues.

Zupra4?

The funny thing is both the 86 and Supra engine’s are bought from other car companies.  Maybe Toyota is the new GEO?

Some dinos were small reptiles.

Counterpoint: it also costs 60% more.

The majority of 90's 6 cylinder mustang and camaro’s would like to discuss this opinion with you.

LOL...if Toyota kills the 86 the tide of opinion will shift suddenly from “Chintzy and Underpowered! You really screwed the pooch Toyota!” to “But it’s such a great car! Why Toyota? Why!?”

I present to you

At first I was out on the styling, but the more I see it - especially in gray - the more I hate it.

Every single thing that I read about this car does not go into any sort of detail about the chassis it resides on. Is it a RWD biased chassis? I assume it’s based on the new RWD chassis that underpins most of the current RWD Hyundai/Kia large cars. Based on the profile pics, it looks like it’s RWD.

I think you mean XT6 but really this just shows how much Cadillac’s current naming scheme sucks.

i like hatches and im surprise the miata isnt there, but alot of gearheads dont like that car since its still associated with the “gay” crowed, alot of the tuner crowed and drifter crowed loves the car.

Yes, you are the only one.