In terms of having a consistent arc and justification for all the manipulation, I think Up is still the gold standard.

Which do you think were worse?

You're not wrong, but the dentist's office stuff (outside of maybe the initiation scene) never held a candle to the open ocean material in the original. The supporting cast was fun, but did you ever find yourself wanting to spend more time with Gil when you could be with the sharks, jellyfish, and turtles?

That was a very well put point, even if I personally disagree and put much more weight on other issues when making political decisions. But I can definitely see where you are coming from.

Thank you for reminding me why it was a bad idea to get sucked into this vortex.

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The more layers peeled back on the way you think politically the more fascinated I am.

Stirring. Not being sarcastic or dismissive, that was a well crafted emotional appeal. I am just immune to them by now.

I want to know the answer to this. I hope it was blue raspberry.

So honest.

OK man.

Yeah we see the world two different ways. I don't think you have provided any evidence of your claims, and no, your belief that it is obvious that there is a massive conspiracy and so anything that smells slightly like it could be widely organized fraud (as opposed to incompetence) is objectively fraud is not…

Sure. But it doesn't mean their grievances have a chance in hell of being addressed when channeled through Trump.

Trump fans would be clamoring to have Powers executed for being a loser.

How about uninformed populists hijacking national parties to promise the sky with no realistic explanations of how to deliver it?

I don't even know if we're arguing. Sure, you're right, the next administration if the Democrats win might just be a party-led obstructionist shitshow instead of a Trump-led one. The decades of public record of his inability to accept losing things he feels entitled to leads me to believe that's not the case but hey…

At least their opponents conceded.

But now they have a figurehead with a pathological need for attention, an inability to accept when he's lost (especially to a woman) and the funds and media presence to scratch those itches. As well as a media that's all too willing to help him do so.

Yeah and none of them were anything approaching objective proof of this conspiracy that you believe in. Not even close. I'm not going to make the same mental leaps in the absence of evidence just because you did.

That is a literal fact. I'm not pulling it out of my ass, it's verifiable. Look up their voting records. There's a New York Times article that is the first result when you search "Clinton Sanders 93%" that shows where they differed, and reminds you that every other vote during her time in the Senate they voted…