I love that idea, that it takes you somewhere but not where the departure people went.

LOL, I suppose.

Anyone else notice some interesting coincidental parallels between this episode and Showtime's counterprogramming of the third part of the "Twin Peaks" revival?

No props at all for Ozzy for being the only one to point to how fucked up the government is right now?

Seems to me at F4 everyone but Tai voted poorly. (I'm just considering Troyzan and Brad a voting bloc, because they were and Troyzan doesn't have any independent game.) Troyzan and Brad should obviously have voted out Sarah (and this is what I was saying at the time, not just 20/20 hindsight). Sarah should have…

There is no comparison there. Did your grandmother violate the Geneva Conventions in any way? Doesn't sound like it.

Your analogy doesn't hold, for two reasons. One is something you acknowledge: "Obviously that woman isn't going on to commit murders like Natalie did", which makes all the difference in the world. The second is probably a result of the fact that most people don't know history very well, and assume things were the…

Ohhh…she was the sister! Whoa, I did not catch that. Cool.

Also good points!

How bizarre is it that when we last saw Kevin, there were roughly 4 hours of Leftovers remaining and now with next time we see him almost half of that is gone?

I am not in any way suggesting what they did was legal, whatsoever.

Ugh, and now I see (spoilers for the next episode) that indeed, they do think Evie is there, and Laurie is still not mentioning the photo! I'm only partway through the episode, so maybe that will be rectified. If not, it's a major blot against this whole storyline.

Great points, and a great quote. It's funny how you can go along and assume everyone around you shares fundamental moral principles (other than some small percentage of sociopaths). But that assumption is so easy to hold because it's not often tested. Then you get a fictitious scenario like this, and learn that…

Look how long she paused before shooting the woman. She definitely wanted her to have enough time to suffer.

I never said it was easy to do. I don't even claim I would have done anything differently than she did. But I accept that if I had taken the cowardly, self-preservationist way out, and then changed my identity and hid, I would have had no ground to stand on in insisting I was being treated unfairly if the KGB…

So it's timing that makes all the difference? Really? That's…weird.

Not a strawman at all. But I guess you have to call it that because it was such a devastating analogy and you have no other rebuttal.

I'm not convinced German soldiers would not face execution (or BELIEVE they would face execution) for disobeying orders, especially if there were SS around. But let's accept your point for the sake of argument: are you saying that if my supposition had in fact been true, the gas chamber operators would have been…

Really? So if a rich scientist discovered he could stave off his terminal illness by periodically harvesting material from the brain stems of healthy young men (killing them), and he had henchmen willing to abduct a sufficient supply of such young men, he would have no real choice but to order them to do so? …

She did have the choice, as 3hares says below. She could have chosen to die rather than collaborate in war crimes. Am I brave enough to have made that choice? I don't know. I hope so, but I don't know. If instead I did what she did, I would have tried to hide real well after the war (as she did). If I got…