"Teenager" covers a lot of territory. In D.C., it's perfectly legal for an adult to have consensual sex with a teenager aged 16, 17, 18, or 19. So you're entitled to think the law is too permissive in this regard, but apparently society at large has not seen fit to agree with you, especially given that the laws of…

Yes, good points. Nice to have a reasonable discussion of it (elsewhere in the thread, I'm being called a "sick fuck"…not that I'm surprised).

Kimmie is the aggressive one in the relationship. What Philip is doing is wrong for the same reason it was wrong to do to Martha or to Annalise. But the people getting exercised because Kimmie is a teenager are what make me roll my eyes.

I did listen to that podcast, yeah. You make some good points. Most everyone though is totally not acknowledging Kimmie's own sexual agency.

I'm an atheist, and have trouble understanding the outrage about getting baptized. I'd feel defeated if my kids were spending all that time at a church; whether they got some water dripped on their face (or dunked in a river, depending on the denomination) in a one-time ceremony would seem like an afterthought.

I liked synthpop but wasn't too into Yaz at the time. I preferred Thomas Dolby, Howard Jones, Flock of Seagulls, Alphaville, Depeche Mode, and especially OMD.

I enjoyed that too, but he should have followed up with "what, if anything, IS good here?".

I'm American, and I'm with you. (I personally *would* do it, as long as she was of legal age of consent.)

The busboy he killed looked like a teenager to me.

The actor is 21, and I'm taking the character as [insert arbitrarily determined legal age of consent here] and finding the whole thing hot. :P

So I'm not the only honest one in the thread!

But Kimmy *does* have the necessary hip width.

Finally a voice of reason.

I find it very strange that we've entered a phase in our culture where "50 Shades of Grey" is a massive bestseller women aren't afraid to read on the train…but we pretend teenagers aren't hot.

That sounds like projecting to me. I don't think they'd have scored it the way they did if it was supposed to be all creepy-crawly.

Because of the final scene? I thought it was hot. Romantic, even.

I found it the opposite of repulsive…and I'm disappointed that on this site of all places, I'm the only one brave enough to admit that.

LOL…well, there ya go. De gustibus.

Hey, I've still only seen two seasons of "The Wire", and only two episodes of "Mad Men", so it's all good. :)

Joe, the vast majority of BB fans seem to share your opinion. My son, also a huge BB and BCS fan, shares mine (and I didn't tell him ahead of time that I disliked "Fly" when I rewatched it with him). You do realize though that you (collectively) are a very cheap date? The only reason that episode was made in that…