You can pull a fuse on your Forester to disable the TCS and stability control, and make it more fun - but it also disables ABS (if I own a Subaru with traction control, I’m going to wire in a switch to turn it off when I wanna get silly, so I can still have ABS when I don’t). 2015 though, is that the CVT? Those are…

The 02 CRV is almost 400lbs lighter, and is much more aerodynamic.

I had it in to 3 different dealers for the AWD not kicking in, rear brakes eating a full set of pads every oil change, and the mpg, and all 3 of them said everything was working as expected. *shrug*

Oh I’m well aware. I was more excusing the Corolla for having a 4 speed, than making any statement about the overall mpg. With better mpg, Toyota could afford to kick the can on designing and tooling for a newer transmission, without affecting the brand’s overall average mpg.

Sorry you’re such an irreconcilable fanboy that you can’t accept the truth, but that’s what it is. I noticed how much I was spending on gas, and started doing the math (I’m a data worker, by trade). 16mpg is what it got, and it was checked out by three dealerships in the time I was driving it, all of whom said…

That, or he’s SO tall that the shoulder bolster isn’t in the same spot as mine. Can’t imagine he doesn’t notice that he’s got no headrest, though. Unless his has completely different seats than the one I drove, the top of the headrest (at it’s highest setting) should be around his shoulders.

What model year is yours?

If you believe the people elsewhere in this thread, they were getting near 30mpg with theirs! I call shenanigans. I drove it like a depressed hypermiler, ‘cuz it wasn’t worth driving quick or fast, and the best I saw was 16mpg. Had it in to 3 different dealers to try and figure out why the AWD wasn’t kicking in, and…

There’s also 10 years of advancements in traction control and ABS programming between the two.

My Civic has whatever cheapass all seasons the dealership I bought it from puts on their used cars. They’re decent, but they’re no Conti DWS. The Element had some Sumitomo all seasons when I started driving it, and Dunlop snows when I stopped paying my ex’s bills and let it get repo’d.

Most people couldn’t tell you the difference between a steak that has or hasn’t been frozen. If they could, Schwann’s wouldn’t still be sending trucks all over the US...

I drive a MINI, and Subarus by choice (a Civic is my DD right now cuz my MINI is broken, and I replaced my ex’s Element with it before I evicted her psychotic ass), so a low sitting position is my preference. The Element is anything but, unless you’re used to big ass trucks. You’re right about the distance to the…

She was a leadfoot. She got about 10mpg. I drove it like an econobox, because it was miserably meager, and it was pointless to drive it fast. That 16mpg was my figure, and included driving a 100-200 mile round trip a least once a week.

I drove it with all seasons and replaced them with a set of snows mid-winter that year.

There’s an awful lot of videos on YouTube of Honda’s AWD system failing to ever kick in its rear wheels for what my coworkers and I witnessed to be “horseshit”. What’s more, when we took it to the dealership and brought up those concerns, while we were also trying to get them to explain why it was eating a set of rear…

Drove it with and without, and the AWD stayed asleep the whole time.

It still blows my mind that he managed to fail with Casinos - and more than one!

Having driven about 50,000 miles in one, I can say beyond the shadow of a doubt, nobody should have bought them. The “you can hose it out!” claim is an outright lie. The seats are ungodly uncomfortable, and literally do not fit anyone over about 5'10" without causing mad amounts of back pain from forcing you to slouch…

The Corolla got more than twice the mpg the Element does, with the same number of gears.

They are most certainly NOT great in the snow. I drove one of these for an entire Michigan winter, with it’s pretend AWD (that never kicked in, even with traction control off, trying to force it by attempting to do donuts with my foot to the floor). My Civic is better in the snow than the Element is. The “truly…