It’s nice to see that sixty years aren’t enough to stop some arguments from rolling on ;)

The 2017 was on a platform that had minimal mechanical updates since 1997. GM has 75% of the full size BOF SUV market because everyone else abandoned it.

...now is the time to hike gas taxes and actually fix our goddamn crumbling roads.

You’re excited about expensive gas? Cool for you.

Ford took “bailout” money, they just called it development aid to make it sound like they didn’t.

Ford got its Uncle Sugar Daddy bailout three years before the big recession hit.

My first new car was a 2000 Passat GLX wagon. The dealer called me to come down and drive the new W-8. I couldn’t wait to drive off in a new 8 cylinder VW! Got behind the wheel, mashed the pedal, and...nothing. I could not see much of a reason for an upgrade. The thing felt like a Buick 225 with a better interior.

How did it make so little power from such a needlessly complex engine?

Yeah but let’s talk about the panel gaps

Okay, good sir, now those are fightin’ words.

“ I prefer the whine plus the unplugged exhaust sound”

The safety issues are not minot though. The fact that my kids could not escape from the car after an accident is an automatic no.

If you saw similar quality issues on a Kia, you would proclaim it to be a POS. But because it is Tesla, you are giving them a pass.

The standard range Model 3 does not exist.

Kia wasn’t charging $50k plus for their inferior cars either. Even now I wouldn’t pay that for a Kia. I won’t pay it for a Tesla either. $140k+ for a top end S or X is flat out ridiculous. And more than low $20s for a 3 is too with these problems.

Dear fellow West Coasters: You think you want a Model 3, but you really should look at the Chevy Bolt. Just pretend it’s not from GM if you must.

I am going to go out on a limb and say it is easier when you have mechanical engineers building a car vs the dropouts from Apple that think every piece of the car should be integrated and not removable except at a Tesla Service center.

Can’t wait to see how the fanboys justify this.

It’s almost like I’m watching the next Tucker or Studebaker, sans the whimsy.

The same principles apply to new cars as old. You'll hear about how somebody's aunt's Lexus RX350 has never had any problems ever and you'll hear about your cousin's Jetta that started flashing warning lights. But that Lexus owner is going in for regular check ups and dealership service visits. The Lexus is getting mai…