To add, I loved John Bell’s performance with Sam. I’ve enjoyed Ian all season. I also loved the moment Claire stands with Jaime to let Roger know he has to make up his mind about Bree because as Claire says “she is OUR daughter.”

I liked Jamie’s clear impatience and fierceness with Roger regarding whether he will stay with Bree or not. Jamie is a man who has always risked all without hesitation for his love for Claire. He clearly feels Roger’s unwillingness to commit to Bree regardless of the child’s parentage shows he doesn’t love her. I…

Interesting. If it becomes as convoluted as that later on (Season 6), then I think changes have to be made to the story. That much of a tangle sounds like a mess and tedious. Diana Gabaldon is not the greatest at plotting. I know I’m speaking to the choir here, but when you have a charismatic, heart-stopping couple in …

I felt nothing and it’s because it was attempting to be emotionally manipulative with characters that, as you say, only are on screen for ten minutes. It was totally unearned and annoying and pissed me off, to be honest.

In past episodes in all three seasons plus, the focus has always been Jamie and Claire. They are in every scene I can think of, which the exception of Jamie in “The Search” (though he was strongly felt in that episode). Other characters—some close to them, some not so close—have their scenes but it’s always a ripple…

If the ratings are down, it’s because the writers have strayed at times in Season 4 from the heart of this story: Jamie and Claire’s passionate and unbreakable love. They need to be at the center of every episode again. The episode where Jamie meets Bree was the highest rated of the season. There’s a reason for that.…

I haven’t read all the books but that’s what I gathered from what I’ve heard (B&J don’t go away). I’m hoping that regardless of that the creative team will chose to give Jamie and Claire the prominent story lines and keeps B&J to a minimum.

To add: they both felt they had hurt the other and were struggling with that sadness. Jamie did feel Claire was angry at him, though she wasn’t. I loved the nuance of this scene.

It doesn’t work because Jamie and Claire can’t be duplicated, nor should they try to be. Jamie and Claire are the focus, the heart. They don’t think of themselves as living an epic love story, but they are. That's what makes those two, and only them, so compelling. 

Just because it’s in the books doesn’t mean it should be included in the show. The show is a different animal—the characters in the books do things/say things the show characters wouldn’t. Bree threatening Lord John was inexcusable. At that time he could be killed for being gay.

Anything involving Roger and Bree would not be interesting to me, no matter what they did. As long as Jamie and Claire are central to the story, the story will be compelling. I think the show’s creators are going to keep Jamie and Claire central. They know why people watch this show. The scene of them in the tent…

I second this. Folks need to leave the books out of the show discussion. 

Actually, in the scene with Jamie and Claire talking in the tent, I felt it was Claire that had to work for Jamie’s forgiveness. That’s why she apologizes three times to him. Claire kept important information from him and Jamie earlier says that he didn’t have both sides of the story. Claire tells Ian that she’s not…

I so agree with your post. All of it. It’s important to remember what Jamie has been through in the past. But yes, he’s allowed some mistakes and this one was completely understandable. 

Sorry for the double post. Regardless, I meant to say that in the show in the scene where Claire has to go “into the darkness” with Jamie and fights him to make him tell her what happened with Jack Randall was in “To Ransom a Man’s Soul.”

I so agree. I really want more Jaime and Claire. I’m not at all interested in Roger and Bree. 

In Season 1, Wentworth Prison, Claire saved Jamie from killing himself after the Black Jack Randall rape by conjuring up the rape and torture in his mind by using lavender (what Randall used). She was trying to force him to tell her what really happened. She said he “only responds to strength” (which is true of…

I’ve read that Diana G. said Murtagh will not be marrying Jocosta.

I think this was Claire being pulled toward Jamie rather than what she had heard prior to going to the stones. 

Absolutely! I couldn’t agree more with everything you said. Jamie and Claire should be central to the story, as always. I love when you say this should never stop (Jamie and Claire exploring their relationship). I am endlessly fascinated by how Jamie and Claire’s soulmate relationship evolves and is never static.