I didn’t start with a full charge and I also was going faster than their recommended 70 mph which will also cut range. Add in max a/c etc. and it chews into range. If I’d had 100% battery when leaving Menlo Park and had gone slower on a cooler day, it’d likely have just made it sans charger.

Boring is better than ugly. And if you want, you can always head to eBay and rivet on some bolt on flares and stick on a universal lip kit to make it less boring. 

Those are both sedans, sure. 

“No way I’d pay more for the Air right now for a slower car.”

$180k is a big ask from a new company. If they don’t make it past the giant hill to climb of not losing buckets of money, you are stuck with an expensive nearly unserviceable car like the folks that bought a Fisker in 2011-2012.

“The Tesla Model S is 10 years old and as far as I know,”

Mostly the same on the outside, but pretty much every mechanical part has been updated. The interior is also entirely new.

It’s the most powerful N/A production *V8* ever. 

Journalists, get the facts before you start typing. Bezo’s yacht won’t fit through the bridge WITH ITS MASTS INSTALLED. The plan, and it is already in motion, is to install the masts AFTER the ship has passed under the bridge. I know how temping all them internet clicks are, and a headline about “world’s richest man…

I get the Bezos hate in the peanut gallery here for some many other things, but this is likely nothing to do with him.

You assume it’s Bezos who actually was instrumental is this becoming an issue?

Because it shouldn’t be about him? Rotterdam is a shipbuilding centre, and the bridge span is removable. If they want to keep being a world-class shipbuilding center, they should probably be able to built tall ships and not let crybullies tell them not to. 

Oh my god, this whole thing is so stupid. It’s not like they have to plow some ancient burial ground or knock over a cathedral. They just need to remove the span of the bridge for a few hours. Which they’ve already done. Which will be paid for generously.

I’m guessing you never bought anything on Amazon either; or been to Walmart; or bought gas; or paid taxes. 

Bezos is a tool, but the Oceanco accepted the job.

Just put the mast’s on later. So fuckin’ stupid this “Story” has gone on as long as it has.

Not usually, there’s a video at the Madonna Inn in CA that gets thrown around repeatedly even though it was about 4 years ago and was at Thanksgiving - and some other factors leading to excessive crowding/waits.

”Musk bought in to PayPal with money from ZIP2 that he sold to HP”

I’m not a huge fan of his, but come on. PayPal, Tesla, Space X, and now Nuerolink. That’s not luck, that’s single-minded determination and an insane work ethic.

Luck only gets you so far.....it does not get you to where he is at. That takes a heck of a lot of other qualities that most people do not possess. I really don’t care how he lives and believe Tesla’s only redeeming quality is their straight line performance, but downplaying Musk’s fortunes to “luck” is severely…