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Literally the dude who started this thread questioned the validity of feminists who participate in beauty culture. That seems harsh, no?

I’ll start off and tell you that if I answer the wrong question, it’s because Kinja is not good at threading, and not because I’m trying to derail.

But I think the question is essentially meaningless because there is no central defining authority for feminism. Do *I* think that my feminism is incompatible with

Yes thank you. Yoga md’s answer to that dude was ridiculously pandering like, oh poor guy, all these crazy ladies yelling, amirite? *wink*. It was gross and thanks for putting it into words better than I could have.

I wouldn’t say the Jenner backlash is about a man growing his hair long.

Off topic, but for years I have enjoyed whenever you join these particular types of conversations. I always really enjoy reading your responses.

That doesn’t really surprise me when I think about it. The more open you are to incredible things & the more honest you are about how floored you are by them probably makes you more open to new & different things, places, and people.

Your original comment claimed that you wanted more information about a movement. Now you’re saying information isn’t enough, you gotta have a firm decision about which feminism is the “right” feminism. Maybe you need to sit down and think about what you want first.

It was a valid question like 50 years ago. But since it was first posed, feminists have debated it ad nausium. Constantly asking if women can ever really be feminists if they wear the clothes they wear has severely hurt feminism; women don’t want to come march for abortion rights and paid maternity leave if they’re

Oh my god, are you in a place that doesn’t have google? Educate yourself. It’s nobody else’s job to do it for you.

Why does he care what women are “good” feminists? How will knowing that benefit him or women? It’s just derailing.

Agreed on all these points, really.

like no matter how firm an answer you get to that question, who cares and what will that opinion do to anyone? nothing

i think that question in itself is a dead end and a huge distraction from abortion rights, subsidized daycare, racism in criminal justice and maternity leave

I have not ever laughed so hard at something so stupid. You are a true artist!

Your mother in law sounds shitty but MAN I can’t help but feel sorry for your husband’s brother for that awkwardness (unless he was in on it, then fuck him obviously).

Worse than this was my cousin, who proposed to his girlfriend during a family reunion.

The related benefit (for the type of guy this appeals to) is removing the stigma of rejection. Between calling it “the game” and the almost aversion-therapy aspect of most PUA dogma (I once had to wade in deep for professional reasons), there’s a real value in teaching these guys that a few rejected advances isn’t the