I guess I just don't feel like we should take the show that seriously as to feel that is trying to say something about society rather than to say something about our protagonist's process of gaining maturity amongst the exaggerated world in which the protagonist lives.

It makes me incomfortable, too, but so far, SO FAR, I do think it mostly, MOSTLY, works as commentary about objectification. Jade's nudity at the abandoned house where Cooper returned was too much though, in my sensibility.

If it's not Diane, I'm gonna be pissed. Ok not really, but I want Diane on this show stat.

I think assuming this, or any, episode has an overall point is a mistake. There isn't one. An individual joke or maybe even a scene can obviously have one. But this show is as likely as not to contradict itself in another scene.

It's tricky with Fey, because she's so outspoken as herself that we can forget that in the writer's room, her only goal is "what's funniest." But I personally have no problem with that approach. I don't love every episode of television she's ever written. Sometimes her jokes irritate me. But it's what's going to…

No. They aren't at all defending rape culture. They are showing that guys like that kid are still a part of rape culture, even if he knows the words to use to appear feminist, he still thinks he is entitled to Kimmy's body and gets upset and throws a fit when he can't have it. The joke is saying that fighting rape…

It made me think of the part in Clueless where Josh asks Cher if she knows what she's talking about when she calls Ren and Stimpy "way existential," and she responds, "no, do I sound like I do?" Just because someone knows the language, doesn't mean they actually understand it or are thinking about it on a deeper or…

Why does it have to make a point? Can't it just be silly and unrealistic but funny? Isn't that where our expectations should be for this show?

To me the joke is that men are going to be shitty assholes who think they are entitled to sex from women they like, regardless of whether they are keg standing frat bros or "sensitive" guys who use the right feminist language in their approach. It's obviously not true. But that doesn't make it less funny or less…

I actually think a lot of those hyperspecific episodes have aged way better, because on first airing you couldn't miss the real world comparisons and now you kind of forget they were based on anything. Like I hated the Conan janitor episode at the time, but now it's just goofy fun.

This! This! This! All I want is for these shows to make me laugh, and they do. Looking for consistent messaging in them is a fool's errand. Because if push comes to shove, they will always choose joke over reality, joke over belief, ect. What's more, they are basically a monument to how full of contradiction and…

I think Kimmy Goes To A Play is hilarious. But not because I think it is representing a real problem or a remotely real group of people or mentality that "needs" or "deserves" to be satirized. I think it's got a lot of great comic beats that build in a pleasing way that makes me laugh. It's just rapid joke silliness,…

He doesn't want his fiancee to know that he made a recommendation on Richard's tech entirely to keep Erlich from fucking a third wife of his.

Holy shit, I forgot he was in that!

Yeah this seems like a huge mistake on his part.

As everyone but Paul Rudd.

Oh no, not an inconvenience at all. I can watch the episodes on the plane, even! I just wanted to let you know I'd be in a different time zone as an FYI.

Five is fine by me. But, oh, that reminds me to let you know that I'm going to be on West Coast time next Sunday, just for one week.

Totally cool. Vikings it is!

Yes, totally agree. She knew she couldn't stay with Pino at the end. But she still has more questions than answers about what it is she does want and I think a big part of her just wants to be young and free. Like, I think she was jealous of the girl from Arnold's DJ night not because of Dev, but because of her…