"I know you want rapists to burn, I get it." <—straw man. she never said anything like that. you attribute a falsified opinion and ascribe it to her. you built a straw man in order to tear it down.

i don't want to think everyone who dubs themselves Sir-Defends-A-Bro is a horrible person, and it's so pervasive, so common and uniform, that i just have to think they say it because it's easy. it's obvious. they think it needs saying.*

Wow, that's a really interesting and perceptive concept. It actually makes hearing this drivel a little easier to tolerate to think about it in that way.

No, I'm not disagreeing with that. If that's the determination that you and your parther came to, then you can call it whatever you like, I won't argue. I just don't believe that we should perpetuate the idea that, "whelp, misunderstandings happen," so then we don't need to take such allegations seriously. It's just…

well again, too bad. i will not stop. you are not the boss. you don't police what i say.

I realize that not everything is always black and white, but I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

bleah. honestly, every single time this is discussed, some stranger rushes to the male's defense. the "poor boy life ruined" narrative is such an automatic knee-jerk that i almost can't stand it. those same individuals NEVER rally for survivors' rights.

I am not smearing anyone's name. I'm just one, lowly internet commenter that I doubt anyone cares about what I say. What I say has no weight to anyone but me. And I'm entitled to my opinion and to express it, just as you are. My conclusion is that he is a rapist so, in one way you're right - I do wish all rapists a…

she is NOT venting. she is NOT creating a toxic environment. and i sincerely doubt she cares if you take her seriously. stop your insane tone-policing, please. if you wish to achieve an honest, calm, factual discussion, you can't go around accusing everyone who disagrees with you of straw manning and ad hominem and…

so, you are only focused on the one side, because your position regards language associated with only one party? if you are not focused on only one side, i apologize for missing your posts which address the suffering of the other side equally. it seems to me, that you are doing a thing which you admit you are doing?…

I do appreciate how courteous our little discussion has been, and I think it's been very interesting and engaging. I think you have some very good points, and I do believe you mean well. That being said, please don't ever say "If you were raped (or feel you were)" to someone who has reported to you that they are a…

Well, for one, Kopin admitted to having sex with her, just contended that it was consensual. She had injuries, etc, so I'm assuming this was a factor in the University ruling that he was guilty of misconduct. I don't know that there is any detailed information on how they came to their decision, likely because to…

First of all, your example is quite the hyperbole and not really a great example. Here's why, in your example I didn't actually steal or take anything. In this case, something obviously happened - she had injuries and there was semen in her hair and backside/back. He admitted to having sex with her. I will grant that…

we also will in a world where victims' lives are ruined, reputations ruined, further victimization occurs, accusations go unprosecuted, and victims have few resources for their own recovery. why are you only focused on one side of a system that often fails both parties?

well, look up the details of the case. and the definition of what he was found guilty of. dude is a colloquial-rapist.

That's fair. Honestly, I was just trying to express my support of Sclove, being a survivor that had to continue classes with and eventually take a leave of absence from my university. Not something I would wish on another. It was not intended to be inflammatory or instigative.

I understand what you're saying, I really do. But I think some of the issue, especially with cases of rape and sexual assault in the university setting, is that the prosecution rates (and conviction rates, even more so) are so abysmal. It's frustrating to see over and over again. I'll admit that you're probably more…

Also very true. It's just hard to ignore how many students who have reported rapes are also hounded off campus and drop out of school (especially if a student athlete was involved), never to be heard from again, because they couldn't even get a disciplinary process started.

I get what you're saying, but the University's definition of "Sexual Misconduct" is analogous to rape. Sexual Misconduct is just a nice euphemism.

I'm just happy for Sclove and the fact that she will hopefully be able to complete her degree at Brown with one less stressor and the fear of running in to her rapist. If Kopin ends up enrolling in another University, I hope his name and face are well known enough that he will not be able to out run the stigma he…