Interesting. I found him to be much more self-determined in S2, but in general in both seasons he is the tool for someone else's ideas.

Nope, all he needs to say is "we followed the book"

I've enjoyed the adaptation, watching it as a stand-alone story without regards to the books. It was hard to finally drag myself away from comparing, but I finally was able to do it in Season 2 and enjoyed it more. I like all the changes they made to things that were nonsensical and way beyond suspension of…

That is true. Looking at the deleted scenes from Season 1, I found where our book Jamie went, into the editing delete bin. Watch them again and see if you don't see book Jamie. It made me cringe watching them because they could not be used as they were SO out of character from the sexy puppy they reduced him to.

I'll go a little further. Now that we've gotten through those painful Season 1 Eps, I do have to say I like seeing the growth and that he changed with things that happened to him. I doubt that TV only viewers had much issue with it and saw a natural progression. Book readers were mourning Jamie's relegation to the…

Same here, only came for Outlander.

The quartermaster is as big a wuss as Prince Shortbread. Jamie should have sent Murtagh along with them…not that it likely would have done anything as changing the future is futile. Unfortunately. I'll bet neither O'Sullivan or Murray die at Culloden.

I take back my rant last week about the show spending time setting up one thing then completely ignoring it (Jamie's professed loyalty to Prince Shortbread, then Shortbread takes his horse and ditches him) I failed to recognize that this is yet another example of my point about this whole season. All the plotting…

The decision to make Jamie a young and naive boy rather than the man he was in the book, and to give the character an arc over the 2 season to grow from a boy to a man, didn't leave much for Sam to chew on as an actor in the first season (don't even get me started on my issues with Lallybroch) until the last 2 Eps…

They've got a lot more on their minds right now than BJR. Interestingly enough, it's the least of his worries at this point.

Yeah, it does all come back to that endlessly pointless effort to change the future. Jamie's attempt to force the army to London, which didn't happen in Claire's future, had to fail. The justification given did not square for me although it's what had to happen.

Agree, all that boat time. Curious to see how they work that. Also I'm seeing stories here and there about changes to the book and character(s) that will carry over to Season 3. Murtagh has to be one of those after all the time they've invested developing that character. That would open up all kinds of changes…

I agree with your assessment of the Duke. He is not the terrifying sadist BJR is. He is a cunning, manipulative narcissist that uses charm, flattery and misdirection to hide his shady dealing. I find his over-the-top persona to be the cover for his misdeeds. BJR for the most part does not care about cover, he's…

There is a lot of convenient plotting in this Ep, most didn't bother me but the one that stood up and screamed FIRE!! was sending Jamie away. After they'd spent the entirety of the opening scene clearly defining Jamie as the ONLY one standing loyally with Prince shortbread, he gets sent away. I don't think I can…

Mary is a minor character of major importance, remember she is a lynchpin to the future. I also noticed that Dougal was not very Dougal-y. He was a wee bit hysterical. The other Rupert line I liked was "When you see your wife again, give her a wink for me."

Reading a few blogs and occasionally making comments is as close to engaging in Social Media as I would like to get. The glimpses of it I see, especially fan based SM, are a howling darkness of anger, resentment and entitlement sprinkled with some appreciative enthusiasm.