Conclusion: buying a gently used car is cheaper. Obviously.

Wouldn’t it be cheaper to by a slightly used car to start?

It sucks having to pay more, but yes I’ll pay it so other people in our country don’t have to deal with smog and poor air quality.

that’s not the problem. The problem is that making one car with two separate engine/transmission/fuel injection/exhaust systems is going to be incredibly expensive and YOU will lose in the end. the manufacturers don’t care at this point what the standard is, they just want someone to tell them what to do.

1st: There’s actually a very cogent argument to be made in favor of one unified standard, and I’m glad that GM, Toyota, et al are making it. Realistically, increased economy standards without corresponding gas tax increases are subsidizing people to live further afield. That drives massive suburban sprawl, egregious…

Nope. Until cars become commodities (hopefully no time soon), I want to sit in them and drive them before I plunk down my hard-earned.

“Torino” is good.

torEno!

Most government overhead is 1/4-1/5 the cost of private companies. Eg. Medicare runs at about 5% for over head where private medical insurers run @ about 20%. 

Other than it will cost every working man and woman $3,000 in taxes to get that sweet $3,000 rebate.

Good night, sweet prince.

“I was actually talking about that Buick.”

The Volt is in a dead spot.

Good point. I know fuel cells are used for back-up generators, but I’m not sure what other applications. 

You could be right, mot people I speak to have no idea how much it cost per mile to charge an EV or even how to charge it.

I don’t know that I think pure hydrogen fuel cell is the future, but a fuel cell BEV makes sense.  The battery can help to provide high demand power when needed and the fuel cell can cover most of the regular use.  Kinda like a gas hybrid today where the ICE helps with peak loads while the electric system takes most…

I think batteries will improve greatly here soon, to the point where hydrogen won’t have a chance to compete down the road. I have no inside knowledge to this, mostly just guessing here... but basing it on how little real progress has been made to batteries for so long, that I believe real breakthroughs will come as…

fuel savings would take a long time to pay off compared to my current commuter car which gets 5.5L/100km.

I keep coming back to the volt (or the ELR if I could find one!) for my next car but the fuel savings would take a long time to pay off compared to my current commuter car which gets 5.5L/100km

I think EV’s will have market share but we’ll see a split in the next 20 years. 50% gasoline, 40% gas/electric hybrid, 8% EV and the rest will be split between Diesel and Hydrogen.