Super Soldier Serum belongs to Captain 'Murica!

Well, I just took @Sini_Star:disqus's list of 20 and cut it down to 1/3 (10 eps vs 32 eps is roughly 1/3), so now we have ~7 cameos for Arrow vs the 4 listed for SHIELD. I just went ahead and rounded that off to 1:2 ratio for simplicity. ROFL, is that what you mean by finding a measure? …Somehow I have gotten lost in…

OMG blasphemy. Plz don't cross the streams. Super Soldier Serum does not exist in this universe. This is Mirakuru.

LMAO yes, I already forgot about that hospital bedside scene. Thanks for refreshing my memory; I really wanted to relive that moment! It was like I was watching "Agents of SHIELD", where everyone is visibly being an actor instead of being in character.

… I'm actually not sure what you're asking here. Are you agreeing with me that Arrow is better and has had more cameos in the first 10 eps? Or are you disagreeing with me that @Sini_Star:disqus made an unrealistic list?

OMG why are you insulting Oliver?

I'm saying all those characters that @Sini_Star:disqus listed didn't show up in the first 10 eps of Arrow. Slade appeared on the 13th ep (I think), and Shado was on the next one. I agree that Arrow is doing better, but @Sini_Star:disqus created a list that's really not comparable.

I just hand waved it away as the production crew wanting to zoom in on Amell's face. 'Cause they need a beauty shot. Or emotions stuff.

Did you really count 32 episodes' worth of characters and compare it to 10? I mean, I agree that Arrow is the better show by a long mile, but this comparison is rather unrealistic. Currently, I think the cameo ratio between the two shows is more like 1:2 in favor of Arrow.

Okay, I can see where you're going, although that seems unnecessarily convoluted.

I know, hence my "fan service" line. The moment was clearly intended to address those who know the comic. Revealing that scene to be a fake out would come across as harsh teasing. "Look what we did here! You like it? Well, you can't have it! Hah!"

Ivo believes Ollie made a choice: "I guess you made your choice." *shoots Shado*

I found it odd that a couple of times in this episode Ollie chose to remove his hood during vulnerable moments. He pulled back his hood after leaping off the roof following his meeting with Officer Lance (like, as soon as he landed on the sidewalk—where people would normally wander—he slid back his hood, just so the…

When the show revealed her to have survived on a ship with a bunch of criminals, I became anxious that they were going to make the subtext much more overt. I honestly don't need this show to go down that road. Just because Black Canary had a rape story in the comics doesn't mean it needs to be brought aboard this show.

I think people who don't know Barry Allen Flash would probably receive the character in the same manner that Detective McKenna Hall was received last season. McKenna was set up as a potential love interest … then she was injured and she left. That same narrative seems to have been redeployed here with Felicity and…

The mask made me laugh, because when he flipped his hood up, the mask didn't do anything new that his previous face paint wasn't already doing. The mask was precisely shaped to follow his face … like a thin film of paint. I think I'm gonna miss the face paint, because I've grown to like it as something unique to this…

I don't understand the purpose of a fake out that explicitly recreates the comic book origin, only to then be expunged later on. That's unusually cruel fan service, I think.

Woah, woah, woah! Don't be acting like films have the same latitude with timeframes that TV series have. There's a reason why @mazzm:disqus chose to pair his Iron Man statement with Nolan's product. Those films delivered what they were trying to achieve in their respective ~2 hours each, and it's not an insult to…

No, Sara asked Oliver what happened to Wintergreen, and tonight we learned that she was next to Yao Fei when he was shot.

I thought they already broached the "rape as backstory" angle with Black Canary Sara. Her shtick early in the season was to attack men who were assaulting women, because she herself … suffered a lot … at the hands of men (*Geoff Johns knowingly winks at audience*). That was how I interpreted it anyway, and I remember…