I know at least one happy couple with kids that ended up in marriage via an ultimatum from the now wife.

I agree with you. If a woman wants to get married and have kids, she can’t waste time with someone who isn’t on board with doing that with her. The particulars make a difference. If it’s a year and a half of dating at 27 it’s a perfectly reasonable reasonable thing to do. For yourself and the other person.

I was equally as confused as you, 8 years earlier. I guess the publisher took a long, long time to update the text. No one ever mentioned a belt to us - not my mother, not the school nurse who came in to talk to the girls one day during health class some time around the 5th grade. I never asked my mom about it. I just…

You’re just looking for any excuse to justify your disrespect and pretend you have the moral high ground here. You were an asshole. Someone told you to stop being as asshole. It’s that simple.

Seriously, what is the matter with you? It’s clear you lack the emotional intelligence and self reflection to take in criticisms about yourself and how you treat others. But there’s something else at play here. I’ve clearly been taunting you for days and days. And quite successfully. You demonstrate over and over and…

You think you schooled me, he he he.

Nonsense. I corrected your insulting conflation of atheism and those who reject a text. You stupidly didn’t understand what an atheist is, and doubled down.

Im intolerant of assholes, that’s true. My telling you stop acting like an asshole hasn’t stopped you from acting like one, nor will it stop you from spewing hate at others whose relationship to their religion you disapprove of, so I’m not seeing how youre coming out for the worse here, other than wasting loads of…

You don’t get to have it both ways. Either religions are based on text, and cannot exist in the absence of a text, or they can exist prior to a text and therefore are based on something else.

So what you’re now admitting is that religions are not based on a text. Funny how easy it was to make you admit you’re earlier argument was beyond stupid.

So you’re saying Judaism wasnt a religion prior to the Torah. Chritianity wasn’t a religion until the Bible got nailed down. Okay then. You’re wrong, but you do seem to revel in your super prescriptive views of how others are supposed to relate to their religions and texts. Non-assholes usually understand religion is…

You have a kind of interesting view of religion. Religion exists before sacred texts are written down (and codified), yet religion is based on the text. Come again?

My point is that if a religion predates it’s a religious text, the religion isn’t based on the text.

You don’t really seem to get that religious texts are open to interpretation, do you? For an atheist, you’re really wed to the orthodoxy, which is super weird.

Only the dumbest person would have read the above and thought it meant the religion is accepting of gays or empowers women. Stop making stuff up to suit your anger. Or are you really that dumb? Anyone would half a brain would understand the *writer* is accepting of gays and wants empowerment for women, and fully…

You really kind of have a simplistic understanding of religion and the beliefs of others. Religious belief isn’t about being “rational.” It’s belief without evidence. That’s what faith is.

Yeah, calling someone who interprets her religious texts in a way you don’t think she should idiotic and weak-minded is not at all being an asshole. Just stop being as asshole.

ETA: It’s funny to see you walking back your earlier statements.

He’s not talking about taking calls. He’s talking about email. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for say an IT administrator who needs to be on call if there’s a problem with a server in Europe to go to a concert. Or a doctor.

I actually didn’t.

And you’re wrong about that. Someone who rejects religious text is not necessarily an atheist. An atheist is someone who doesn’t believe in a deity, not someone who thinks religious texts are dumb or loathsome or the product of people. I don’t know what you find so hard about understanding that rejecting a particular…