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That's what I was thinking. But, I guess the thought process was, if the daughter knew something that he husband couldn't teach her and he then thought she wasn't pure he could leave and she might be ostracized from the comunity. And, that would be a worse fate. I still don't get it....but I also wasn't raised in

I know. I completely agree. And I wish it were that way. (I try to remind myself of that every time I peek at a tabloid at the newsstand - that their lives are none of my business.) But, I don't think that's reality for a high-profile celebrity like her.

Nope. Because she is going to be judged by the public for her actions despite not being part of a coupled that has been married for decades or raising children together. Hence, the public apology. It would be nice if the world we live in allowed her to keep this private, but it doesnt.

I said it in another thread on this post, but I it applies here too:

Exactly. As much as we all hate to admit it we are a part of the court of public opinion that, unfortunately, every celebraty is subject to. How many dirt bag comments start with, "I just can't get behind so-and-so ever since he/she did x." She knows what she did will be commented on, that she will be raked through

Yeah. I thought I had read that too.

I didn't get a lot of judgment from the article. I do see it in the comments. I also agree wtih making up stories about hypothetical women. I, personally, don't have a problem with women having a varied human experience from me. But, for any woman out there, from an empowerment standpoint, I would hope that

I absolutley agree. But it makes a difference when you know the thing that might happen is a possibility, and when you really didn't think it was a possibility so it throws you off-guard.

Interesting thought. That happened to me to. I took my HBC religously for years and then about two years into my vey stable, live-in, relationship, for some reason taking it just kept slipping my mind. Hmm...

I was watching My Big Fat Gypsy wedding. I know - awful gawking at another culture's expense, and also a little off-comment. But, there was a teen daughter getting married, and even her mother wouldn't discuss sex with her on the eve of her wedding. The mother said that it was up to the daughter to learn about sex

Maybe it means that these women were willing to be pregnant and have a baby but didn't think it all the way through. The women might conceptually want to have a baby, but not have worked out practically what that will mean for them as far as finances and lifestyle changes. Still, bad choice of wording, I agree.

Exactly! But, I think it goes back some women feeling they have to act certain ways (in the bedroom and out) to "keep" a man. So. Sad.

Wow. I didn't know that. That is just plain scary.

Wow. Now I just feel sad. This book is seen to be a commentary on that? how? Why? I mean, it's a relationship gone south, whether due to boredom or something more insidious. But, it's in now way reflective of us Gen-Xers in relationships, because the two personas in the book were sociopaths, or borderline, and the

Yes. I fully expected her to smehow get her money back and "make them pay" at the same time, before she ever went back to her own life.

Hm. Valid points. Except that she did conceptualize it. She had thoughts about them (or at least him) stealing from her before it actually happened.

Yes!

And, I think the "unreliable narrator" works better when the writer somehow manages to weave in some hints that the narrator is unreliable. Once we found out Amy's diary was unreliable, the only side of the story I had to rely on was Nick's, and I really didn't trust his perspective either. And, there were really

I think Charlize Theron would be awesome.

But, all of that restrospective on women and men's relationships for me, got completely dismissed when I found out her diary wasn't real. Then, all of a sudden, we only really have Nick's word on how their relationship got to the breaking point, and I didn't trust him to have an objective viewpoint either. So, at