I love William Hurt, but man is he chewing the scenery here
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Sorry if I haven’t clarified my terms. The industry are the establishment, and typically more conservative in that regard. MoviePeople are the online tastemakers who are somewhere left of Marx. The people who somehow thought Three Billboards was some sort of racist screed
You’re extremely naive if you think you, Ignatiy, or any of us aren’t influenced by the prevailing social attitudes towards film, as exemplified by sites like Twitter. Remember when you guys wrote a glowing review of Three Billboards and then later had a video basically saying “Are we still right about the movie?” and…
Ahhhh that’s where you’re wrong. Most non-internet black people are just as indifferent to these woke politics as non-internet white people, and enjoyed the movie. Also the movie’s been a HUGE hit in China
I agree that the familiar nature of the arc makes it hard to make a great movie with such a storyline. Three Billboards comes close, but then again its redemptive arc was much more interesting than many of its MoviePeople critics gave it credit for
Leaving aside the semantics of the word orthodox, I don’t think such movies are patronizing. Movie plots are usually built on arcs, and “redemption” is a very viable one. And while MoviePeople might be sick of seeing it, Green Book made a lot of money and was popular with audiences, so this might be one of those…
Movies take real stories and change them to fit story arcs. There’s virtually no “based on a true story” that doesn’t. Not necessarily a laudable thing, but no, not a racist one
No not that. Interestingly, “opinion on racism” isn’t the issue. Green Book is certainly anti-racism, but that didn’t matter to WokeTwitter, the Angry Left, whatever you want to call it. It’s not about having an opinion on racism.
Orthodox means conforming to religious doctrines, or more broadly the dogma of a group. The left has its own orthodoxy, its own dogma. And a movie which argues for the redemption of white people violates that dogma, which is why such movies are always received badly in certain quarters. It goes against the central…
You start out by saying it’s not “unorthodox,” but then explain all the reasons it is. Since MoviePeople (which I’ll use to separate the people like us from the average Joe who watches a few movies a year) tend to be extremely liberal, there’s a certain orthodoxy about what movies should and shouldn’t present. White…
Can I ask you something though? And I mean this seriously - if this was the best directed, best acted movie of the last five years, would you give it a low grade anyway because its plot is one that has been dubbed Unorthodox? I don’t mind any trope, so long as it’s done well, and it’s hard to tell from this review if…
First of all, thanks for taking the time to respond to me. Especially when I’m criticizing your review.
Secondly, I don’t think your “Dad joke” parallel works. No one grades jokes on their artistic merit (Okay I’m sure some people do, but no one really) the way we evaluate movies. So I’d be less concerned by someone…
Well it’s not the same as racism, but it’s the same as saying black-people-movies, yes.
It’s not a big deal, but I don’t think you should be dismissive of movies based on a demographic that might like them. Rather than making the standard “but it’s different when it’s white people/old people/the demographics which…
Have you read it? I haven’t and I hear it’s nigh unadaptable
That’s all great to hear, but it still comes off like saying “Man this isn’t even a GOOD black-people-movie” and then saying “But I loved Soul Plane.” It’s still a weird, dismissive way to refer to, what, movies that feature older men in them?
I’m 32 and have no children, but even I find your use of “Dad movies” to be an embarrassingly cliched millennial approach to film criticism. Something featuring people older than you isn’t worthy of glib dismissiveness (and no, your final sentence doesn’t redeem the glib dismissiveness)
Very interesting review, Katie
Just want to remind you that the idea of the Treaty of Versailles being excessively punitive is, itself, propaganda. And from the Nazis, no less, who wanted to convince the world that Germany had been wronged.
Look no further than the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk that Germany imposed on Russia the year before. It’s as…
Thank you for mainly writing an actual review of the movie rather than an attack on the actors within or, worse, the viewpoints they hold.