I kept thinking that keeping her in water would make her bloat up.

"If you only knew how HARD I tried to save her" was some male patriarch bullshit. Yet I still think he's being venerated rather than critiqued, what with Vanessa hugging him…

Because all we've seen him be is stoic, and those characters are always the most compelling ones when they break down or have an emotional reaction.

I looked at the episode's IMDB page when the episode first aired and didn't see it. Might have been my mistake.

Wow, I checked half a dozen times and never saw it. Did they update her?

Man, after finally understanding what's happening when they put that cloth over your nose you couldn't PAY me to be waterboardered.

Sure. But let's just be careful what we ignore. If this season is about male clones, than it should be dealing with issues of toxic masculinity, and how it's normalized..

I tried it because it was on after OB and I didn't want to move.
It has this strangely old fashioned plot like something I'd expect to see on TNT at midnight.

I just wish they'd given her a name…

Not inherent, but what they did to that girl is a pretty good reason to not excuse them. Male entitlement at it's finest…

Sadly, it's The Cape for me…

Liked it, but man did I feel unmoored. Maybe it was how the show used to involve Sarah going back to Felix's loft so often and now it's just Cosima without him…

That's conjecture.

Wow

No. Unless you believed there were deaths offscreen which would kind of dampen the allegory.

It only targets one person at a time, when it's following someone else she's not vulnerable to it, and can't resign herself to her fate.

Not as much as AHS though.

So I guess if it's a "W" we know it can't be Negan.

I don't think they're really right for each other, but I'm interested at how Marnie will react when she realizes how much he cares that she finds the right person…

Onna no Ko