Exactly. The lengths people go to with elaborate theories to plug plot holes, when they've been proven wrong again and again, never cease to amaze.
Exactly. The lengths people go to with elaborate theories to plug plot holes, when they've been proven wrong again and again, never cease to amaze.
Yeah, it's so dumb, I don't get why people are repeating it. She was arguing with Jon to wait, she is not a master of reverse psychology!
But there was no means to put them into competition. And if she helps orchestrate the take back of Winterfell with two complete armies, she has more leverage, not less.
They took only the hundred fastest ships! I didn't even think they had hundred guys with them when they ran, lol.
Also, Jon recovering himself and not letting his emotions lead him into Ramsay's trap would have been an unexpected twist, much more so than Petyr and the Rohirrim. Especially since people always fall for Ramsay's tricks, no matter how obvious they are.
Um, Mother Theresa would have let the dogs eat Ramsay. That hardly makes her Dark Sansa.
My reading of the scene was that Ramsay was in fact missing on purpose, so he could kill Rickon just as he got close enough to Jon to give him some hope. This is well established in the show by Ramsay's tedious sadism and marvelous superpowers.
Jon acting very dumb yes. I think this is bad writing, because Jon is never that dumb usually.
But before that she had obviously sent the raven and heard back, and she could have used that info to win the argument and halt his attack. There is 0% possibility she thinks Jon is less trust worthy than LF. This is just…
Exactly! The show has been taking out complicated betrayal and scheming plots, with Dorne and the North Remembers, I don't see them adding it in. This is just in line with how the show is now. Everything revolving around Ramsay and the changes from the book story lines have been rushed and poorly thought out.
I appreciate the effort, but that was a rhetorical question. I wasn't asking for a plausible scenario, because there isn't one. Had we seen anything to indicate she was faking, either during the chase or after, that would be one thing. If not, it is just shitty writing trying to amp up the drama. It was clearly the…
She just got through rejecting LF because he's untrustworthy. There is no way she would want to weaken Jon in favor of LF after he sent her to Ramsay. Jon has given her no reason not to trust him. All of theories about why Sansa really did it are silly, it was clearly poor writing and will be hand-waved away, like so…
They really don't know what to do with her. She should be reinvigorated by rezzing Jon- especially because she apparently didn't know she had that power before, but instead she is kind of wistful and whatever about the whole situation.
#6 the Night King?
Sansa, Arya, Rickon and Bran all had a home to return to as long as they were alive. Instead we have them drift aimlessly throughout the next two books to different corners of the globe, with little sense on how or if their stories will re-converge.
But what did riding out accomplish? Why did he keep charging? Why not go back to his troops after Rickon died? I get the emotional aspect, but after this recklessness, he can never lead an army again.
I am just annoyed that not only won't they do that, they won't try, and there will be no explanation as to why not. Yes, Jon has a hot body and a handsome face, but the actual useful one was Wun Wun! At least try to rez him!
Well the most epic scene of the season up until was Dany not using the Dragons but instead using her non-flammability in a creative way, she doesn't always use them. Actually before now, and pretty much since she captured Meereen, they have actually served as a logistical and moral quandary. They eat people, but they…
There is significant ambiguity as to whether The Lord of Light actually exists, or whether the red priests are just powerful sorcerers. We know there are witches and warlocks that Dany has encountered Essos. It seems very un-GOT like to claim "God did it!" with no other possible explanation.
lol i was mostly kidding. Isn't Dracarys just the Valyrian word for fire? Dany isn't like a parseltongue, the Dragons don't have a legit language do they?
Exactly. They could have even just shown us scenes of Jon and Sansa planning, but not let us in on it, and it would made a lot more sense yet still have suspense.