Like I was saying, Ford was much better managed than GM at the time the recession hit.

Go ask someone who thinks that the Federal Government should underwrite loans. I sure as heck don’t defend it.

It concerns me that the Government isn’t a better loan shark.

1. Because they could get a lower interest rate through the Federal government.

From Reuters “The $11.2 billion loss includes a write-off in March of the government’s remaining $826 million investment in “old” GM, the quarterly report by a Treasury watchdog said.”

Cool story bro!

Musk didn’t grovel and Tesla wasn’t old enough to peddle shit for decades. They were a few years old at the time they got their loan.

Of course electric vehicle tax credits and emission credits are government subsidies. But they’re available to everyone. Whereas the $40 billion to save GM was only really available to GM. And if those subsidies went away Tesla may or may not survive.

Tesla repayed their loan 9 years early and might not have needed it. We won’t know and Tesla pursued that loan because it had a low interest rate. To qualify for that loan, Tesla had to demonstrate its ability to survive without that loan.

Maybe GM would be more well-liked if they didn’t peddle shit for decades and come groveling to congress to bail them out.

I don’t want to cause problems in your house but I had to look this up and it looks like the Corolla S had better tires even in 2003.

It is! You’ll love it. It’s free healthcare and better than that, it’s a great program for the logically inconsisent. After you enroll, you’ll be able to deride government healthcare and pure marxist communism while suckleing at the teat of the State.

And people who live their live by reaction. Enjoy your bigblocks and medicare.

So you agree that circling a car is the same as attacking it, and pointing a gun at someone is the same as murdering someone with a gun. But now you say that they should be punished differently? If they’re equal transgressions, then they should have the same punishment.

So you’re saying it would make sense if Texas started executing people if they unjustly pointed a gun at another person?

Yes. If you break a social more, it’s important that the transgression is dealt with as swiftly as possible.

For some reason, all the bad stories I hear come from the South-with-a-capital-S. I know this is in Nevada, but the truck has Texas plates.

You joke. But I’ve thought about this for a few moments and have a solution for those of us who are afraid of getting killed by a gun nut.

Surrounding a car is different from beating on it.

Well... I’d support jailing someone who yells ‘fire’ in an open theater. So, yeah I’m willing to jail someone who did something dangerous even if they claim it’s their right to endanger others.