So wait, I am to tow a trailer off-road just to sleep in the car? What?

I’d love to drive one, but this still nets you the same bike vs car argument (cargument?).
- More weight than a bike
- Less grip than a track ‘car’ due to one less wheel
- Same power as bike

Power to weight being equal or close, grip wins. I don’t see how they sell five of these a year when the price gets so close to an…

Fair, I guess. I see (and hear) WAY more wildlife on my mountain bike than my dirt bike. That’s nice. My KTM’s got a full titanium FMF that is a touch loud.

And to non-motorhead people they all sound the same. Louder is just more annoying. Kinda like tattoos. My curated collection from respected artists puts me at the…

Motorcycles are invisible with loud pipes. The “Loud Pipes Save Lives” line is utter bullshit.

Now I kinda want to wait on a Tesla. I’d rather a Caddy over a Model Y if we’re talking the same money.

Really hard for me to get excited without Erik’s involvement. And my Ulysses is to date the only bike that ‘got away’.

...a tale as old as time.

One answer for best off roader:

I saw quite a few of these in the mid-90s as a teenager in Appalachia. I thought a tarted-up escort was pretty stupid then, and it is hard to shake now.

Effing Kinja. Left out my link. You can rent slingshots on the good roads near where I live:

I should have been more clear. I would definitely drive one. I even found where to rent them on good roads near me.

I just wouldn’t own one without a 90% discount.

I wish Torch would write more reviews.

He’s done a lot of talking about living in NC.

Good take, and I am genuinely interested in riding one.

For me (ignoring price entirely), these suffer the same fate as the Polaris Slingshot. I think it could be fun but I definitely don’t want to be associated with the crowds that seem to own these machines.

Man, I had to scroll and scroll and scroll for an explanation of what car camping is. Glad you said it. 

Car-camping, to me and all my friends that camp, is more synonymous with ‘not backpacking’. As in, camp very near your car so you can bring whatever the hell you want. I can’t understand how so many people in the commentariot here think a grown man and his son are both sleeping inside a Scion XB

Can people sleep in an XB without twisting into a pretzel?

I’d like if they would give you a semi-long term loaner. If living with Electrify America for charging is not horrible this car could be a contender. 

Reads to me like an electric Toyota Venza with a BMW snout.

At least it can carry a meatball.

I tried to turn CL into a craigslist joke, but got nowhere. Sorry I missed yours!