This is the same company that just rehired the guy who called Obama Hitler, right? How is that politically neutral?

Can we get Oliver meeting Casey Jones if there is? Everyone else got a doppelganger. It must be his turn by now.

And the jello guy and weird botanist were playing off the, everyone is bipedal trope, without making it a big deal.

It was less egregiously face-palmingly awkward in the 2nd season. The cast had started to gel. But I think TNG took a bit longer to truly course-correct and ascend in quality than DS9 did.

It was fine. I didn’t hate it.

Yeah, but it looks terrible, generic and made by people without talent or even an understanding of what star trek is. Orville felt like star trek fanfic. STD is aspiring to BAD star trek fanfic.

This. It’s as if somebody hasn’t watched the TNG pilot since it originally aired. The only remember the best of years of episodes.

And it’s not just the first season. Maybe we can make them watch all of the “Wesley saves the day” episodes for good measure.

I wonder if the same show with the same script would be getting a much more positive reception if MacFarlane wasn’t involved.

This is how I felt too. I was expecting to hate it, but it was more bland than anything else. But bland in a way where there’s room for improvement. A couple of good gags with a lot of jokes that fall flat, but it felt like there was at least genuine heart behind it.

I’m super hyped about the prospect of a pleasant, good-natured show that may be funny in the long run. It’s been so long.

I liked it enough to keep watching. It was a bit generic, and full of exposition dumps, but that’s pilots for you. Hopefully it can sort itself out over the coming episodes.

Most of our “beloved” sci-fi/fantasy shows have a rough first episode/season before taking off. Remember how horrible the first episode/season of TNG was, for instance? If not, go back and watch it and let me know if you don’t cringe through the whole thing.

Eh. It’s probably the closest thing to a Star Trek series we’re liable to see for a while.

There was quite a lot of hate for this show early on (advance screenings I assume) ... and I just don’t get it.

Totally understand. I’m not saying she doesn’t get dry skin, but being ashy is a different thing. “Ashy” refers to the difference in color between dry skin and your pigment, so really only someone with darker skin can actually be ashy. Basically, when you scratch dry skin, if you can’t CLEARLY SEE the white line of…

Like escaping a riptide

Run perpendicular to them.

Just run serpentine

Stuff can happen anywhere, but no need to unnecessarily be in a place where it has a higher propensity to occur. Ain’t no shame in moving out the hood if you can afford it. Like you said, you got a family to think of. I understand the desire to want to be around our people, but it’s a catch 22 sometimes.

“Oh man, it’s been so long. What did I miss?”