The Beverly hillbillies knew how to take care of each other. They were humble and innocent, even when they were accidentally pissing people off. Trump is more like a bank villain from a depression era comic book

Sure. But is the outrage machine something we really can afford to stoke at this point? Are we furthering the conversation by stating things hyperbolically? Or are we just get pissed off at pop cultural slights to entertain ourselves?

Fair point. Noted

That’s not what I’m saying or what I said. She’s ignorant and not aware of how we look at race in the United States. Holding her to our understanding of race is America is unfair. Let her know, or acknowledge her ignorance. The name calling is a little much. She’s been a strong advocate for LGBTQ issues. It’s a…

That’s a fair thing to say. You can tell the elections are still affecting me. Just. Can’t. with the name calling and the writing off of ‘deplorable’ especially for people who are simply ignorant

Simply calling or being called names (even if they fit) is a judgemental and un-nuanced way to reach people. There are a thousand better ways to approach an enlightening conversation that doesn’t start with a pronouncement on your character

Of course I do, but the vocabulary is different, the experience in the media, the experience of class is *vastly* different... you just can’t judge foreigners by American racial standards. We have different goals in the states too. Thousands of differences. Similarities too, but the American impulse to pass judgement…

Starred. We have to find a more nuanced way to talk about race/gender/identity that doesn’t immediately devolve into name-calling. I’m sure getting angry is awesome for a quick adrenaline rush, but it’s not conducive to *actually* trying to reach people

Honest, we’ve got to find a different way of judging people than writing them off when they say something ignorant

True. Good point. But the way it’s expressed and used (or ignored) in the media is different

I don’t. But a non American is going to use a different vocabulary to talk about it the way we do. You used the word ‘white washing’ to describe me before. Somebody outside our culture is going to have a different way to describe that or just not notice it the way we might at all. I know it’s annoying needing to…

Yeah, well, goes both ways. I know you get sick of the need to explain shit (we’ve starred each other’s comments before), but sorry. Don’t agree with you here. Reserve the right, and claim the space to.

Dumb. She isn’t American. I’m sick of people screaming racist for someone who both had no hand in rewriting (or casting) the character, nor someone who experienced racism as we might

Dumb. Taking shit out of context STILL does not make Swinton racist in this case.

Can I just say that it strikes me as tone deaf that The United States expects everyone to understand our racial hang ups through the prism of our experience. I work in translation and barely a day (well sometimes a week) that I don’t have to explain my American experience with race and difference and never - NEVER -…

Agree... mostly.... but I don’t think people are as sexist racist as you think. Propagandized against? For certain. Did trump utilize the racist fringe in this country for votes in the same way that previous generations of Republicans utilized evangelicals? You bet.

It’s true that 20% of eligible voters chose Trump, but you don’t know how many had been sidelined but the incredible amount of propaganda painting Clinton as the antichrist. Between the Russian email hacks, the false news stories and the FBI, she had the cards stacked against her. Also, eligible voters excludes people…

Jesus was a SOCIALIST!!!!

Thanks for that. I live in NYC and work in translation. I’ve spent years of my life being an immigrant, needing to make my way around foreign laws in a language I didn’t grow up with. Most of my friends are immigrants, queer, or both. Heck, I’m not even Christian... so believe me when I say I live in a bubble. I’ve…

No. that’s one thing I refuse to do. Not out of anger or dominance but because there’s very little we get to know about how other people think and feel. If we all “shut the fuck up”, we’d never know. There’d be no shared experience, no understanding of one another- no growth. You want to use ‘white’ as a personality…