Exactly. Luke’s training according to this dude is fucking around by himself. Rey’s miraculous use of the force feels convincingly accidental in TFA and her fighting skills were much better than luke’s because he was a farm boy. She was a scavenger who lived by herself in a hostile environment and had to fight things…

It’s a while since I’ve seen it but aren’t there quite a lot of TIEs in that scene? Even if you’ve got one pilot who’s vastly better than all the others it’s still only one guy, you don’t want all the enemy’s forces focussed on just him. I saw that scene as payoff for everything we’d heard up to that point, (and if…

No he hasn’t. Obi-wan was dead by that point and he hadn’t met Yoda yet. His only lesson was on the Falcon and that was all of a couple of hours.

OMG the number of people who are already quick to bitch and moan about this based on one poster and a trailer are ridiculous to me. I kinda wanna be like “...do you even like Star Wars? B/c if not, that’s fine, but at least be honest with yourself as to why you want to be the first to shit on everyone’s parade.”

That would be so awesome. You never see Leia really relaxed in any of the movies...it’s always crisis, crisis, crisis.

Not for nothin but Luke did his first force pull without any training in the Wampa cave in Empire Strikes Back.

we see Rey use Force powers in TFA (after seemingly being unaware of even being a Force user herself) that Luke and Anakin took years to learn about.

Every time I see TFA I think “The Fucking Article” (as in RTFA). It’s kind of fun.

(she was stronger than both Luke and Anakin the supposed “saviours” of the force).

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I haven’t heard that perspective before, I thought they did it quite well, mentioning that Poe was the best several times, and then letting us actually see it, in what was genuinely my favourite shot of the whole film. (And this is coming from someone who thinks TFA is vastly overrated!)

Poe didn’t say he is the best, others did. Donald Trump says he is the best. I don’t understand why you are trying to draw a parallel between Poe’s skills and Trump’s arrogance.

By which you mean, they showed Wedge in the background of all three movies and then waited until someone wrote tie-in novels telling you at length he was the best pilot.

I could be dodgy on the details, but there’s no evidence in the film that Wedge is the best pilot. They certainly wrote him as the best leader of the X-Wing squadrons, but not necessarily their ace pilot. That he’s one of the best, if not the best, I feel is mostly from the EU, where it’s much more explicit.

Londo is probably the person who has best taken advantage of that fact.

I don’t think any amount of piloting skills will save a parked X-Wing from getting destroyed in an explosion.

In his defense, it really has been just a few bad parking choices.

“It’s time for the Jedi to end...”

Luke: For training use the Force to keep the rain off us.
Rey: You forgot your umbrella didn’t you.
Luke: *looks down* A bird stole it.

I want Leia to actually be relaxing in a scene like this.