It shouldn't be anyone's surprise a purpose-built, carbon-bodied, mid-engined racer beat the 599XX around a track. The 599XX is not the pinnacle of Ferrari engineering, it is the pinnacle of what the 599 can be. The 599XX Ring time is stunning for a front engine V12. I see where you are coming from with the 575GTZ,…

If Ferrari wanted to break that lap time, they would do it with ease, they just aren't going to waste money trying to set a lap time around an irrelevant German racetrack. It does not matter to anyone in Maranello. You say it like the only measure of a great race car is a Nurburgring lap time. I like the P45 as much…

Ferrari does not care about 'Ring times.

I know.

I don't think they did. Even if they did, so did Arrows. Arrows was actually fifth in standings at some point in the 80s or early 90s I believe.

Simtek could have made this list.

Glad the FR-S didn't make it. We don't need that as a convertible.

I think LaFerrari will blow everyone away. It has a V12 and is a much different idea than both the 918 and P1. You also say Ferrari is alienating themselves from future customers, but here's the thing, Ferrari is also thinking that far ahead. Companies look very far into the future. The boys in Maranello know what…

I see your a pretty big Porsche fan. Here's the thing, the Ferrari DOES do something different. It's a Ferrari. It isn't a Porsche, or a McLaren, or a Koenigsegg. It's a Ferrari. It's for people who want a Ferrari. And guess what? there are loads of them, more than Maranello wants or needs. With LaFerrari XX, or…

Ferrari does not care about the P1 or 918. At all.

I don't get why they like them so much either, but if the Excelle XT they brought to Beijing this year existed in North America, I might buy it.

You say that like that isnt the same case with every other car in the series..

What happened?

Dodge is lost.

Some owners have them as far as I know. Most deliveries will happen in June/July I think.

Yeah maybe don't take things so literally next time.

Yeah Camaro Z/28 customers don't even think about the Nissan GT-R. Similar performance? Yes. Similar customer base? No.

Sherlock eh? That's a real zinger.

I knew this was going to go badly six seconds in.

So now that Chevy has acknowledged the existence of the 2015 Z06 Convertible, why don't you show how loud that mouth of yours is?