Rachel McKinnon broke a record for the 200-meter sprint record for ages 35-44. She noted that her time was 13% slower than the overall world record.

Even while I was hesitating clicking on the article in the first, I still ended up being utterly baffled by the really twisted logic here. And before anything else, I still have not seen a definite or, to be honest, even indicative research on what is the benefit, if any, of transathletes have in their sports,…

I’m going to try to give one nice, understanding response.

Please understand that you are using the very argument used to invalidate, attack and other trans women for a long time. I’ve heard so many times in my life how I “grew up different” or didn’t “have the women’s experience.”

People told me I was taught to be…

There we go. Why didn’t you just say from the start that you don’t consider trans women to be “women enough”?

Whereas a trans woman you *don’t know* has clearly not been a woman long enough and as such requires your “wisdom”?

::A ciswomen telling transwomen all about discrimination and being treated like shit like that isn't something she has experienced every day::

The point is that we know this. Trans women have a well founded commonality of being well-aware of things like this. Because we’re women and have always been women.

And yet there are idiots who blame trans folks’ 41% suicide attempt rate on “mental illness”, i.e. being trans. There are jags who loudly exclaim that cisgender privilege doesn’t exist. It’s enough to make you tear your hair out (and not via electrolysis).

“No, you cannot make the case you understand being a woman any better than a cis person understands being trans.”

How many specifically cis roles are there? Like, does the role of Luke Skywalker or Debbie Ocean from Ocean’s 8 require that they be cis? I’ll grant that there are specific instances where yes, it’s important, but mostly roles are not specific to cis *or* trans folks.

Apologies. You’re right!

I’m pretty sure prodiGal was referring to the trope

Hot tip: many Olympic athletes stop having periods because of how much pressure they put on their bodies. And hip width is a pretty arbitrary method for measuring who should get to compete.

Or maybe, you always thought we were women, and we never were. I wouldn’t worry too much. Even at 3%, that is not enough to worry.

lol no, it’s anger at so called feminists who exclude women who don’t have uteruses and say shit about how trans women are not real women. Feminist movements are historically bad at including minorities, whether they be minorities of colour or LGBT minorities. Even LGBT communities are bad at including people of…

I know, I was drawing a parallel conclusion by use of a rhetorical device called a metaphor, whereby two dissimilar items are compared based on a shared facet of their existence.

So is the score of the Super Bowl at half-time. Doesn’t mean it can’t change.

“Female” is kind of a bendy term, since biological sex is not immutable. But that’s neither here nor there. Why not use pregnant person? We’re not talking about how you refer to yourself here. We’re talking about referring to a class of people.

Anytime, and thanks for not being defensive!

Gender standards do exist, though. Being a social construct doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Money is a social construct, but that doesn’t mean you are out throwing it into the gutter.