wait are we talking about scott or lamar? i thought scott was on the wagon right now, and as a show watcher, it seems to me like scott’s involvement in the show is proportional to his sobrity. when he’s off the wagon, he generally doesn’t appear on the show.

they are definitely not partying with scott. kim doesn’t even drink.

secret doesn’t typically mean legitimate.... huh??

pass. i’d love to see what my buddy was like as a puppy, but he came to me at 2 years old 100% trained, and i wouldn’t trade that for a whole album of puppy pictures.

really? it’s pretty obvious what’s going on within the first 50 pages of the book, I’d say.

You’re totally right - Barbara stepped up big time, and I think what she’s most afraid of is Jenelle never letting her see Jace again. But she’s the grand-adult! She’s supposed to carry the risk, be the bigger person, teach the life lessons! But she’s not. She uses Jace as a pawn and it makes me sick.

Go on birth control and complete a full year of marriage????? Are you kidding me? That is some seriously hateful bullshit. Barbara gave Jenelle and Jace the best chance at succeeding - and now Jenelle has a job and house. That is great! Thank you, Barbara! Now give your daughter custody of her son.

I agree that she won’t be winning any mother-of-the-year awards anytime soon, but pretty much everyone who IS prepared to be a parent got that way by actually, you know, parenting... which she’s done for the last 2 years with her second son.

If the child is in danger of abuse - absolutely. That doesn’t seem to be at all the case here. We also have 6 years of television footage to show us how emotionally abusive Barabara can be. And while I agree Jenelle needs a fuckton therapy and should spend some time single, she can do those things with custody of her…

So Jenelle should not have custody of her kid because something her boyfriend did wrong? Okay. You sound like a shitty person.

really?

does she have minions?? i feel bad for the girl.

Oof. Disagree! Barbara is monster.

Barbara needs to give Jace back to Jenelle.

To be fair, mosquitos are not in season during August in Brazil. It’s their winter.

exsqueeze me?

YAAAAAAAAWWWNNN

sometimes when i’m in a bad mood i’ll hate watch it to spare my friends and family my attitude. it always works. it’s so awful.

the show is terrible. regret nothing.

I hear you. I definitely wouldn’t buy or wear it... I guess I just don’t find it as inappropriate or offensive as you do. Maybe it’s the nature of DB’s death... and by that I mean, death is an inevitable part of life, and 69 years is a good run. But I’m not sure. I’ll spend some time thinking about it.