The people who are opposed to the 1619 Project should be expected to state explicitly and point by point why they are opposed to it, how it differs from actual history and why the current curriculum should remain in place and not stand alongside this.

I really appreciate Whoopi Goldberg and the View. They have always been allies against antisemitism and I am glad that they each brought up really nuanced opinions.

Yes, I know that, but the distinction is worth making. If I called the protein in fish “albumen” I would be incredibly wrong because there is no egg white in salmon:

What is between the river and the sea?

It literally means to wipe Israel off the map with those proposed borders. Now, and attempting to be intellectually honest, is that literally calling to push Jews in the sea or just figuratively?

She was at a rally with people chanting “from the river to the sea,” so there is that. Was she saying it - I don’t know - and is she culpable if she wasn’t - also a question.

It was, and is, a slam dunk argument. Only someone stubborn and short sighted wouldn’t agree that winning the fight against fascism or slavery is more important than keeping civilian casualties in proportion. You can try and deflect, but this is the stance you have taken. Who other than extremists want innocent people…

The point of the hypothetical was to find where you stand philosophically, in the absence of a perfect historical facsimile. But ok fine, as a disproportionate amount of the fighting during the American civil war was done in the southern states, the civilian casualties would be disproportionally southerners. Fuck the…

Which is why I asked you to act as if the British were not yet aware of the holocaust, and simply analyze the casualties caused by the bombing campaigns& means and methods of both Germans and British. We both know the British dropped bombs strategically to weaken the German war machine, not save Jews, so while…

The point I’m trying to make, my original and only point, is that it is strange to judge who is right/moral/justified in a conflict by simply comparing which military has killed the higher number of civilians. As you say, there were many factors involved in WW2, but I have a difficult time believing that you would…

From wikipedia, it shows German civilian deaths due to Allied bombing were between 353K-434K. By contrast, British civilian deaths from Axis Bombing, 67K. So my question to you is, given this large disparity 6-7x, would you have been as critical of British means/methods as you are of Israel’s? And if the answer is no,…

I just explained why. Would you have had the Allies slow or stop their bombing campaigns, and thus impede the war effort, simply to narrow the civilian casualty gap? And if you wouldn’t, would you think it was fair to characterize yourself as someone who thinks the lives of innocent Germans aren’t worth as much as the…

Is it strange that an organization wants to choose a path that is less polarizing and not get involved in a conflict that it probably doesn’t fully understand.

What I mean, is that it’s strange to judge a conflict and those involved simply by who has inflicted/endured the most civilian casualties. The Germans had, by several orders of magnitude, more civilians killed than the Allies. I’m not claiming any innocent life is any more important than any other, only that the…

Articles like this, written in this style, only go to cast shade and propagate hatred. Gadot posted something calling Palestinians neighbors. Some could even call that endearment, but some have chosen to see it as the opposite.

Articles like this, when posted without the girth of context they need lead to a lot of misinformation and hatred being put on display.

The Israelis have better weapons that the Palestinians. Everybody knows that. Israel is a developed economy. Seems all the more reason to not fire rockets in their direction. Same reason why Taiwan doesn’t fire rockets at China.

What is it with you and this strange accounting? The amount of civilian deaths does not indicate whose lives are worth more or less. It’s a matter of motivation and circumstance. I can picture you in the ‘40s, bitching about Allied bombings.

Except for the fact that there are CONSTANT terrorist attacks going on in Israel perpetrated by Hamas and their ilk - most of it goes unreported though. How do I know this? Because, I lived in Israel for a while and experienced it on a day-to-day basis and I have friend who currently live there and experience the same…

I don’t know what people expect from her. You really thought she was going to say “Death to Israel” or something? The left has lost the plot on this and is careening toward antisemitism, especially with Gadot since she takes a lot of shit for being the most famous Israeli in the world at the moment.