There are stories about hanging out with him in the beginning of Please Kill Me. Amazingly you can find them on the internet:

Des Moines, Iowa, perfect example.

Yeah that still doesn't make him much of a poet. Remove the music and you're left with drunken buffoon.

I think she always sort of spoke and sung, but I honestly haven't listened to her whole catalog.

I would have included "Is That All There Is" but mostly because its my favorite song of all time.

I always go back and forth between these two. Surfer rosa is more uncompromising and harsh. Doolittle seems a little more developed but also a touch safer. They're both incredible.

No, no. I agree that it was interesting and fairly unique.

I really liked the story (also not musical) of Schoenberg yelling after someone in a supermarket "Lies, frau Marta. You have to know I never had syphilis!"

I wish I could but they all have severe limitations and I'm sure you know about them already. I probably go to Pitchfork the most and ignore nearly all of it. (Their attempts at jazz criticism are the worst….although they seem to mostly avoid the "free jazz" comment - see above in Fly LO). KCRW is a good place to…

Actually I'd say late 20s and totally out of touch with their generation. Although to be fair, I haven't read it in about 20 years. They constantly got things dead wrong pretty much from the very beginning. When I was reading it regularly (high school) they got an awful lot wrong and overated things to make up for…

It probably wouldn't have been released had he not already been famous.

I don't think that's the kind of music being discussed here. I've only listened to a bit of it but if John Cage released and album (I know he's dead) it wouldn't make this list, despite being American/Anglo etc….. As much as its a very limiting and incorrect term, I think they are going for a general "rock" category.

No problem.

Yeah, I was kidding. Billy Corgan is helping cats. I applaud his efforts.

You obviously haven't seen the photo……

Thanks for setting the record straight. I don't know what I was thinking.

Yeah I went back and listened to the stuff they have on Spotify (I'm at work) and Needle & Thread is there. I also listened to Where'd You Get that Vibe. Both of these are close approximations to what they were like live, or at least closer than that horrid RCA album, which isn't on Spotify. Even their early…

I went to college with Brian (he lived on my floor - or rather, I lived on his floor, my freshman year). Agent's first saxophone player actually left and joined Fighting Gravity at some point (Karl) who were originally called Boy o Boy or something like that. I think the "same deal" thing I was referring to must…

Yeah he was actually a pretty good guitar player even if he wasn't singing. It also kept a noodly second guitarist off the stage since he could cover so much. Although it did open the door for the sax and violin duo.

How did that relationship drag on for 7 years? Does that mean he was still a superfan in 2009?